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8/10 on 3rd Down in the first half
2/7 on 3rd Down in the second half (but there was the PI penalty on 3rd and 7 of their TD drive)
2/7 on 3rd Down in the second half (but there was the PI penalty on 3rd and 7 of their TD drive)
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Sometimes. Other times they got pressure, sometimes still had a rusher in Brewer's face after the rollout, forced a diving throw and he and the WR still made great plays.
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matcar
Mostly banned
I get that you feel that way, you apparently aren't alone based upon comments here but the numbers tell a different story. Yes, the defense made some big plays, but they bookended those with atrocious defense and numerous opportunities to get off the field where they simply failed. I see little improvement in the back 7. VT isn't even a particularly good team and yet they torched us on 3rd down. That is a huge indictment if where things stand.
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brandonTHEbuck
Catch me if you can!
I dunno. As much as we'd all like to hope Im pretty sure we all knew Braxton going down ment we were going to lose a few, if not a lot, of games. There is a reason that historically alot of freshman QB's have struggled .... cos it's hard to start at a huge program like that as a freshman. Period.
Outside of that I think we played well. Two missed field goals and a dropped TD pass - without those its a totally different game. Defense was very good - run defense was pretty much a lock most of the game, pass defense def. needs to get better - but its hard to argue with them shutting them down for a huge chuck of the game to allow us to get back in it. And we were pretty close to OT right there at the end. I suspect Vtech will be ranked decently by the end of the year.
Outside of that I think we played well. Two missed field goals and a dropped TD pass - without those its a totally different game. Defense was very good - run defense was pretty much a lock most of the game, pass defense def. needs to get better - but its hard to argue with them shutting them down for a huge chuck of the game to allow us to get back in it. And we were pretty close to OT right there at the end. I suspect Vtech will be ranked decently by the end of the year.
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I agree in terms of the first half.
I don't agree in terms of the second half. They only had issues getting off the field in that TD drive that included a PI call and trickeration.
Still a lot of work to do, but showing up for 1 half is an improvement from last year. I'd be very happy with this D if they had played the whole game like they did the 2nd half.
Still need to see that all game, especially in big games, however. A lot of work to be done, but I do see progress.
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zincfinger
Gert Frobe-approved
I thought there were several plays where Brewer got off a pass that moved the chains a spli second before someone pasted him.
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Bill Lucas
Assistant Coach
Agreed. They made some great catches in the first half on third down throws and also had that "no,no, no, YES!" completion down the sideline on one third down play when he was flushed from the pocket.
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bukIpower
Head Coach
They didn't even hit 200 yards passing and everyone is acting like that's not good enough? I get if people want to say our defense needs to step up on 3rd down or that we need to make more plays. However this defense (including the secondary) is vastly improved right now.
There were not WIDE open WRs like some of us are stating. We certainly should have played tighter on 3rd down but I felt our guys for the most part were there with the tech players just sometime the other team will make a play or so. Most importantly no big hitters this week the tech offense was forced to sustain drives down the field and because of our inability to get off the field on 3rd down they were able to do it enough.
There were not WIDE open WRs like some of us are stating. We certainly should have played tighter on 3rd down but I felt our guys for the most part were there with the tech players just sometime the other team will make a play or so. Most importantly no big hitters this week the tech offense was forced to sustain drives down the field and because of our inability to get off the field on 3rd down they were able to do it enough.
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Bill Lucas
Assistant Coach
Were you at the game? I was. On the 35 yard line in C deck looking right down onto the field. They had several third down plays where the receiver caught the ball with a Buckeye defender at least 2-3 yards away. That is wide fucking open.
What were their passing stats on 3rd down? I could care less about 200 yards passing. I care about the passes on the plays that either get the defense off of the field or kept them on the field.
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matcar
Mostly banned
Our guys presumably are still new to Ash's scheme so I'm hoping that's all this is. I've got to believe that the talent is there to play better defense, just hoping that the scheme we heard about in preseason and our ability to play that scheme actually come together to yield strong results later in the year.
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My take on this game - at least our AD didn't come down from his luxury press box and mix it up with the refs. At least we scored 21 instead of getting blanked like Scum. I like the way Barrett stood in there despite all the pressure. He shows a lot of composure. JT didn't get injured. Noah will be back next week. We still have a chance to advance in the Big Ten with MSU losing to Oregon. Braxton will be back next year with everyone just a little more experienced. Looking ahead and staying positive...
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