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2026 tOSU Recruiting Discussion

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Bestbuck36 said:
This is all going to go the way of MLB in my opinion. There's going to be the LAs and New Yorks that can just out spend everyone and have the best talent every year. And there's going to be some schools that spend a lot less and have to develop the heck out of their rosters.

Occasionally one of those non spenders is going to hit the jackpot with a couple of players and make a run at it but for the most part, it's going to be the mega rosters in the playoffs every year.

Ohio State has no business ever being in the latter category so they might as well start ponying up and buying the guys they really want every year and be the bleeping Yankees of this thing!
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How has that not been the case forever in CFB and collegiate sports in general? It’s ALWAYS been the haves and have nots. We just happen to root for 1 of the haves. The 12teamCFP has just allowed a few teams like Boise State and SMU and Arizona State to make a cute appearance. But none were ever going to win the NC. And OSU and even ND would’ve curb stomped those teams by multiple TDs.
 
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pnuts34 said:
How has that not been the case forever in CFB and collegiate sports in general? It’s ALWAYS been the haves and have nots. We just happen to root for 1 of the haves. The 12teamCFP has just allowed a few teams like Boise State and SMU and Arizona State to make a cute appearance. But none were ever going to win the NC. And OSU and even ND would’ve curb stomped those teams by multiple TDs.
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I agree but for the record, Texas was lucky as shit to get past ASU last year.

Just like to put that out into the world.
 
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pnuts34 said:
The "why" is being hidden behind the Oz curtain. And only someone like Bjork or Day can answer that. With the talk a few weeks ago from Bjork after the House said they wouldn't step in, many thought that offers would be increased but it still seems like OSU is one of the only schools still wanting to "follow the rules", when there are essentially none. The NCAA won't and cant enforce a thing and congress says they dont care collegiate sports made their bed. Bjork is finding ways to generate money but is reluctant to spend it. Yet in places like Lubbock and Eugene they're willing to throw a few million at a kid with not a care in the world
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I can't see where anyone has actually said this but I think the why in kinda obvious. University presidents, AD's and coaches are worried that big time college sports (football and basketball) brand will become less valuable the more it looks like a minor league for their professional counterparts. When you think about it, when is the brand of AAA baseball ever been considered to be anything close to Major league baseball? That's why they are willing to roll the antitrust dice to implement the House Settlement in hopes of passing antitrust mustard.

Also as ORD has often told us, the presidents would view becoming administrators of minor league sports team is not a core function of their university's mission.

The problem is that more than a few universities are not honoring their commitment to implement the House Settlement or are pushing beyond the limits of the house settlement to test the College Sports Commission's resolve. OSU in not.
 
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pnuts34 said:
The issue is that it will be very hard to quantify because a kid earning 7 figures as a true frosh will be expected to produce damn near all conference stats from day 1. For instance, the scUM NIL cant be happy that Underwood is starting the year as a backup. And the pressure will only get worse if he's not starting by mid season if not game 3. And in essence, a true frosh QB should be allowed time to learn the playbook and adjust to the speed of the game. But we're setting up these kids to fail because theyre getting paid so much.

Its almost impossible to quantify how much was paid, because everything is a rumor. And Bjork made the biggest blunder by saying OSU had a $20mil roster because that's all talking heads could use as a basis. If he never put that number out, no one would have any base data point to use. He could've even said $50mil and journalists would've ran with it.
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Where are you getting your info about underwood? He was literally named the starter.
 
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sflbuck said:
I can't see where anyone has actually said this but I think the why in kinda obvious. University presidents, AD's and coaches are worried that big time college sports (football and basketball) brand will become less valuable the more it looks like a minor league for their professional counterparts. When you think about it, when is the brand of AAA baseball ever been considered to be anything close to Major league baseball? That's why they are willing to roll the antitrust dice to implement the House Settlement in hopes of passing antitrust mustard.

Also as ORD has often told us, the presidents would view becoming administrators of minor league sports team is not a core function of their university's mission.

The problem is that more than a few universities are not honoring their commitment to implement the House Settlement or are pushing beyond the limits of the house settlement to test the College Sports Commission's resolve. OSU in not.
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Using AAA baseball isn't a good analogy. Different levels of teams in European soccer is more like it I would think. The NFL might be the higher league but there are millions of rabid followers of the lower tier teams.

I don't think the University Presidents are worried about the franchise value being diminished, I think they are looking to keep the money in house and ignoring the very obvious fact that the two missions do not align (Higher Education and Entertainment). Or they are just completely missing the writing on the wall (more likely).
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Using AAA baseball isn't a good analogy. Different levels of teams in European soccer is more like it I would think. The NFL might be the higher league but there are millions of rabid followers of the lower tier teams.

I don't think the University Presidents are worried about the franchise value being diminished, I think they are looking to keep the money in house and ignoring the very obvious fact that the two missions do not align (Higher Education and Entertainment). Or they are just completely missing the writing on the wall (more likely).
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I totally agree on your on your first point. The Premier League and the leagues below are a much, much, much better analogy. I just thought baseball would be more relatable for everyone. Also there is no question a franchise that is a perennial Premier League title contender is way more valuable then an English minor league team.

I agree with most of your second point except the last part. I think the university presidents at the Power Four Conferences look at the mess the NCAA has created in Division 1 and they are scared shit-less. Why? It is the money. Sports teams are the lubricant for the largess that the Power Four Members get from governments, their alumni base and their associated business community. Think about it, the $ 22.5M the are paying athletes is peanuts compared what they stand to lose.

Many people say just classify them as employees, certify union and get a CBA. The president are scared of that too for the exact same reason. Think about it how many businesses donate to an NFL team to increase that teams profits? Yes they will become official sponsors, but they don't donate and OSU has lots of official sponsors as it stands already. And what will happen to donations the first time that 1/2 of the college football season is eliminated because of a work stoppage? Especially alumni donations? They may not know for sure but they do not want to find out.

Money is the reason that the Power Four Conferences removed compensation from the NCAA's purview. It's why they created the CSC to enforce new regulations. It's why the CSC agreed to the compensation regime in the House Settlement. It's always about the money. It's also why they crafted the compensation regime in the House Settlement in a way that COULD (NOT WILL, COULD) receive approval from the courts. But that would be a topic for a different post.
 
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sflbuck said:
I agree with most of your second point except the last part. I think the university presidents at the Power Four Conferences look at the mess the NCAA has created in Division 1 and they are scared shit-less. Why? It is the money. Sports teams are the lubricant for the largess that the Power Four Members get from governments, their alumni base and their associated business community. Think about it, the $ 22.5M the are paying athletes is peanuts compared what they stand to lose.
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Totally agree, I just see it from a different angle. This is why I have been beating the drum that the Universities need to split off this sports entertainment thing some of them have inherited and focus on the business of higher education and research.

It relatively simple to create a league of teams (new co LLC's) that you as say Ohio State, license your own name image and likeness to but keep the two entities legally separate from a risk perspective.

The Ohio State Buckeyes play every Saturday in The 'Shoe just like always. It matters not one bit to the world that Columbus Sports ventures LLC actually owns the team and pays OSU for the rights to use the name, uniforms, logos, stadium etc etc etc


All current problems solved in a short period of time from there
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Totally agree, I just see it from a different angle. This is why I have been beating the drum that the Universities need to split off this sports entertainment thing some of them have inherited and focus on the business of higher education and research.

It relatively simple to create a league of teams (new co LLC's) that you as say Ohio State, license your own name image and likeness to but keep the two entities legally separate from a risk perspective.

The Ohio State Buckeyes play every Saturday in The 'Shoe just like always. It matters not one bit to the world that Columbus Sports ventures LLC actually owns the team and pays OSU for the rights to use the name, uniforms, logos, stadium etc etc etc


All current problems solved in a short period of time from there
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I got to admit that is a very creative solution that solves all the problems. I don't see the Boards and Presidents giving up the control of "sports entertainment" right now. But if the House Settlement gets knocked down by higher courts and Congress doesn't give them a limited anti trust exemption they are going to have to do something so maybe they get there.
 
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sflbuck said:
I don't see the Boards and Presidents giving up the control of "sports entertainment" right now.
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This my comment about them (in general) still trying to keep the money and being greedy/stupid.

I know they are all highly intelligent and successful in their field but they are used to a certain framework and it’s clouding judgements imo.

They keep making things worse by trying to build new functionality on an old platform. It’s time to reduce, not add. The old structure can’t support all the new weight.

The days when schools and the NCAA got to have their cake and eat it too are done. It’s not a bad thing, it’s just different. Fighting the obvious is the only bad decision here and so far they are doing it.
 
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