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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
I agree, but until then, losing our prestige will make it hard to dig out from. I think there needs to be measured use. Not Miami or Texas A&M, but to give us a few five stars in places of need.
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osuvictory1
Just a schlub from Y-town
What scUM is trying to do won't work either. I think Hairball is doing some grand experiment, and the fan base is actually buying the BS. You know the whole development is enough argument. In 2024, we shall see.
So we need to figure out some measure to stay competitive with UGA and AL, not neck in neck, but competitive.
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Poe McKnoe
Head Coach
I think Nike and Adidas have been funneling money to can’t miss prospects for a while, and it’s not a coincidence most of that money has went to basketball. Basketball is an easier bet - blue chips are more likely to pan out and provide a return, and they don’t have to wait 3 years like football. I think speculators (I can’t call them investors) will find out there is money to be made, but it won’t be what they think, a lot like the gold rush.
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mendensa
Legend
Hairball has got to be loving what COVID helped create for *ichigan. Avoided getting a beat down in Columbus in 2020; where he was on the verge of losing his job. Not an overly talented team in 2021 but good enough, especially on the DL, that the more experienced players that hadn't beaten OSU came back for that sole purpose. A Perfect Storm. Had some success after beating a fairly young, inexperienced and incompetent OSU defense last year and beat us with different players but the same strategy this year and is now using the portal perfectly for their needs after experiencing a couple of years of success....... so naturally kids are buying the BS. Once he goes back to 9-3 or 8-4 in 2024 and he realizes it's not sustainable, he'll bolt for the NFL..... without a NC.
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I don't think Harbaugh is capable of any grand strategy. I think he's found a fortunate series of events to cover up his lack of recruiting.
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Abenaki
Ohio against the world.
247 has Cormani McClain, David Hicks, Peyton Bowen, Nyckoles Harbor, Duce Robinson, Desmond Ricks, Jordan Hall, Rodrick Pleasant, and DeAndre Moore, Jr unsigned in the top 100 of the composite.
Day did say it's a long time until February. Who else might be coming on board? Wilcox? Any other possibilities anyone knows of?
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
I very much respect the idea of not making monetary promises to kids who have never set foot on a college football field — let alone excelled once on the field.
NGL, at this point, this is very much like the arms race between the US and Russia during the Cold War. We more or less won the Cold War because we were able to outspend Russia. Plenty of arms that were developed / invested in during the Cold War were retired without ever being used. Bad investment? I’d offer that it wasn’t. It helped achieve the ultimate goals.
At this point I’d consider making the top bets in the locker room whole with NIL immediately and then start spending like a sailor on shore leave in the South Pacific… I get it, the issues in the locker room and all, right? That’s why I think it’s important to take care of the kids there first and then go h*ll bent for leather to start buying the kids who ‘fit the program.’ Note, I’m making a huge distinction in just buying talent like aTm and getting the kids you WANT. In order to get all the kids you WANT, they are going to have to pony up to get ink on signing day.
There may be kids who don’t pan out who take some money off the table without ever being All Americans, but just like a warhead somewhere in the Dakotas that never saw the light of day, it’s just what needed to be done.
Sadly, this is just the price of entry in this new world.
NGL, at this point, this is very much like the arms race between the US and Russia during the Cold War. We more or less won the Cold War because we were able to outspend Russia. Plenty of arms that were developed / invested in during the Cold War were retired without ever being used. Bad investment? I’d offer that it wasn’t. It helped achieve the ultimate goals.
At this point I’d consider making the top bets in the locker room whole with NIL immediately and then start spending like a sailor on shore leave in the South Pacific… I get it, the issues in the locker room and all, right? That’s why I think it’s important to take care of the kids there first and then go h*ll bent for leather to start buying the kids who ‘fit the program.’ Note, I’m making a huge distinction in just buying talent like aTm and getting the kids you WANT. In order to get all the kids you WANT, they are going to have to pony up to get ink on signing day.
There may be kids who don’t pan out who take some money off the table without ever being All Americans, but just like a warhead somewhere in the Dakotas that never saw the light of day, it’s just what needed to be done.
Sadly, this is just the price of entry in this new world.
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
“It's a great group. And I think when you look at the quality of the people that we're bringing in, I think that's the focus right now,” Day said Wednesday. “These are guys who want to be Buckeyes.”
Day isn’t overly concerned that the Buckeyes have had five decommitments in the 2023 class. That’s not a unique phenomenon to Ohio State – Georgia, for example, had six decommitments (though one of them, Daniel Harris, ended up rejoining the class) – and he believes flips are simply a reality of modern recruiting. After all, Ohio State signed four prospects of its own who decommitted from other schools: Brandon Inniss (Oklahoma), Calvin Simpson-Hunt (Texas Tech), Joshua Mickens (LSU) and Kienholz (Washington).
OHIO STATE’S 2023 SIGNEES
POS PLAYER STARS RANKINGS
QB LINCOLN KIENHOLZ ★★★★ #205 (#14 QB)
WR BRANDON INNISS ★★★★★ #29 (#4 WR)
WR NOAH ROGERS ★★★★ #45 (#9 WR)
WR CARNELL TATE ★★★★ #61 (#10 WR)
WR BRYSON RODGERS ★★★★ #325 (#45 WR)
TE JELANI THURMAN ★★★★ #99 (#2 TE)
OT LUKE MONTGOMERY ★★★★ #52 (#3 IOL)
OT MILES WALKER ★★★ #486 (#34 OT)
OG AUSTIN SIEREVELD ★★★★ #249 (#12 IOL)
C JOSHUA PADILLA ★★★★ #218 (#10 IOL)
DE JOSHUA MICKENS ★★★★ #131 (#20 ED)
DL JASON MOORE ★★★★ #65 (#8 DL)
DT WILL SMITH JR. ★★★★ #263 (#36 DL)
DT KAYDEN MCDONALD ★★★★ #278 (#38 DL)
LB ARVELL REESE ★★★★ #198 (#18 LB)
CB CALVIN SIMPSON-HUNT ★★★★ #79 (#8 CB)
CB JERMAINE MATHEWS ★★★★ #136 (#16 CB)
S MALIK HARTFORD ★★★★ #163 (#11 S)
S JAYDEN BONSU ★★★★ #270 (#23 S)
S CEDRICK HAWKINS ★★★★ #282 (#25 S)
“I just think it's kind of the way of the world right now. You know, some guys decommit two and three times before they actually sign nowadays,” Day said. “And I would say if it was 10 years ago, yeah, I'd probably be like, ‘What's going on?’ But right now, we've had some guys change commitments from another school to our school. I remember a time when once somebody committed, everybody just stopped recruiting them. That doesn't change anything anymore. So with early recruiting, with all the different things that are out there right now, guys are changing their minds. And we just have to adapt to it and move on.
“So that just means when they commit that we just keep recruiting them. And the same thing with other guys across the country who are committed, they still kind of look around a little bit. And not that I necessarily agree with everything that goes on in that world, but it's the way things are going, it's the trends that are going on across the country, and we just have to adapt.”
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That part is an eye roller because he'd be having to remember back to his teenage years.
People, including OSU, haven't backed off until the LOI was signed for quite some time now.
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