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Ohio State football: OSU needs help at quarterback

Ryan Day will not want to enter the 2022 season with just those few bodies. You’re asking for trouble. I’m also guessing he doesn’t even want to enter spring practice with just those three. Through a combination of finding a guy in the transfer portal who simply wants to be part of an elite program and isn’t worried about playing time, and enticing a talented high school senior to become a preferred walk-on, those empty chairs in the quarterback room should be filled in the next two months. I’d like to see another scholarship quarterback added, but that is going to be a tough sell for Day. I think you’ll see the Buckeyes open the season with five quarterbacks on their roster.

Entire article: https://scarletandgame.com/2022/01/14/ohio-state-football-osu-needs-help-at-quarterback/

Is there another Gunner Hoak out there somewhere?
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Ohio State football: OSU needs help at quarterback

Ryan Day will not want to enter the 2022 season with just those few bodies. You’re asking for trouble. I’m also guessing he doesn’t even want to enter spring practice with just those three. Through a combination of finding a guy in the transfer portal who simply wants to be part of an elite program and isn’t worried about playing time, and enticing a talented high school senior to become a preferred walk-on, those empty chairs in the quarterback room should be filled in the next two months. I’d like to see another scholarship quarterback added, but that is going to be a tough sell for Day. I think you’ll see the Buckeyes open the season with five quarterbacks on their roster.

Entire article: https://scarletandgame.com/2022/01/14/ohio-state-football-osu-needs-help-at-quarterback/

Is there another Gunner Hoak out there somewhere?
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Take some instate, or regionally local, HS project guy and give him PWO and like $100 NIL deal. Maybe you catch lightning in a bottle and he turns into something but if you need him in '22 the season is gone already so you have nothing to lose.

We need a lot more help in other areas than 4th and 5th QB.
 
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cincibuck said:
Looking for word on early entry, who's on campus already? - I don't worry about those kids getting picked off by portal or last-minute change-of-mind.
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This article (Updated: Jan. 18, 2022, 4:43 p.m. | Published: Jan. 10, 2022, 6:00 a.m.) may give you some insight on the 2022 early enrollees:

Which Ohio State football 2022 recruits are expected to enroll early? Buckeyes Recruiting

With winter workouts around the corner, a handful of the nation’s fourth-ranked class will report to campus as early enrollees, participating in spring practice to get a head start on their college careers. OSU is also expecting transfers Tanner McCalister (Oklahoma State) and DeaMonte Trayanum (Arizona State) to arrive this week.

Entire article: https://www.cleveland.com/buckeye-t...cted-to-enroll-early-buckeyes-recruiting.html
 
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With a couple years of QB training at tOSU, seems like any PWO would be a prospect to receive a college scholarship somewhere, and do well.....could be that a youngster with 'only' a Mid-American scholarship offer could elevate themselves into a much larger stage somewhere. Will be watching the current PWO that entered the portal, to see if this pans out for him. See something like 1,200 people in the portal, with what, something like 4-500 jobs available?
 
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With the worry about NIL and new coaches affecting recruiting classes, I'll keep saying it, but the transfer portal will be a game changer. And some of these kids that we miss on and go to other schools, can be replaced in the portal by a student who's been in college multiple years. There was a lot of bitter posts about losing Brooks to NIL, yet we may get a former All Big 12 CB(who was a former 3 star from LA that OSU wouldn't even look his way) with experience in the new DC's system. OSU lost Zion Branch at S, but also landed a S that was a multiple year starter in the new DC's defense, and college size. So did we really lose that recruiting battle? The coaches that can adapt will be the big winners over time, not the programs who rely solely on NIL to outbid the HSers. You'll need a combination of those HSers, as well as some key transfers to win. At the end of the day, player for player, I'd rather have a guy who's been in college for several years over an elite recruit(though there are a few exceptions). But also those transfers can be a nice stop gap, until that recruit develops(if he doesn't transfer first as well)
 
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Jaxbuck said:
A big part of my concern with Day right there.

How on earth does he not know Coombs was in over his head between Bama and Oregon? You have all spring, all summer, all fall camp. They review practices, they scrimmage each other. You have enough at bats, looks at him in scrimmages to know he only throws a fastball.

I look at the "decisive action" Day took after the Oregon loss as more of a bad thing than some kind of merit badge for Day. He goy caught with something he should have seen coming.

That said, I like everything he's doing so far this year and it was early in his time on a new job so it's understandable to a degree. Hope he keeps it up with the defensive changes and that some of the locker room stuff was residual from it finally being Day's team and no longer Urban's.
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Let's not let Meyer walk free here. 2015 Should have been another trip the CFP. The losses to Iowa and Purdue weren't the usual 3 to 7 point upset varieties, but blowouts. The decline of the defense began in Urb's final years and then there's the whole Smith/dildo/marriage counseling hoo haa. I think what I grudgingly admire about Alabama and Saban is that he moves a lot of people in and out - he delegates and then holds his coaches responsible - Joey Freshwater comes to mind instantly.
 
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cincibuck said:
Let's not let Meyer walk free here. 2015 Should have been another trip the CFP. The losses to Iowa and Purdue weren't the usual 3 to 7 point upset varieties, but blowouts. The decline of the defense began in Urb's final years and then there's the whole Smith/dildo/marriage counseling hoo haa. I think what I grudgingly admire about Alabama and Saban is that he moves a lot of people in and out - he delegates and then holds his coaches responsible - Joey Freshwater comes to mind instantly.
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I love Urban as much as the next guy here but it is what it is---he is kindof a shitshow. It's not 1 example it's like 8 examples. Day is a more solid person and has only made 1 clearly bad move as head coach---hiring Coombs as DC. Which he corrected after 9 games. I dont think he or anyone else thought Hafley (clearly good hire) would leave after 1 year.
 
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Tanner said:
I love Urban as much as the next guy here but it is what it is---he is kindof a shitshow. It's not 1 example it's like 8 examples. Day is a more solid person and has only made 1 clearly bad move as head coach---hiring Coombs as DC. Which he corrected after 9 games. I dont think he or anyone else thought Hafley (clearly good hire) would leave after 1 year.
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Urban is arguably a top 3 coach of all-time.
Some revisionist history going on.
 
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cdiddy70 said:
Urban is arguably a top 3 coach of all-time.
Some revisionist history going on.
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whats the revisionist history? Let’s not act like he didn’t make some head scratching hires, and also some head scratching with what he allowed… I love him for what he did to the program, but that shouldn’t blind us from his glaring deficiencies as well.


cincibuck said:
Let's not let Meyer walk free here. 2015 Should have been another trip the CFP. The losses to Iowa and Purdue weren't the usual 3 to 7 point upset varieties, but blowouts. The decline of the defense began in Urb's final years and then there's the whole Smith/dildo/marriage counseling hoo haa. I think what I grudgingly admire about Alabama and Saban is that he moves a lot of people in and out - he delegates and then holds his coaches responsible - Joey Freshwater comes to mind instantly.
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And you’re just talking about what he did at OSU, he almost turned Uf into another version of Da U, if not for his “headaches”
 
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