tOSU Recruiting Discussion

[Buckeye86]

You don't see the difference?

I see a big difference

2,000 miles, growing up a Buckeye fan, being extremely close with your relative who is actively recruiting you to play with him, Urban Meyer putting on the full court press, the old staff that snubbed you largely being gone, and Bill Greene saying he expects him to be Buckeye

all those things make a maybe visit from Thomas much more credible than a planned visit from a Cali kid in my opinion

 

[buchtelgrad04]

I see a big difference

2,000 miles, growing up a Buckeye fan, being extremely close with your relative who is actively recruiting you to play with him, Urban Meyer putting on the full court press, the old staff that snubbed you largely being gone, and Bill Greene saying he expects him to be Buckeye

all those things make a maybe visit from Thomas much more credible than a planned visit from a Cali kid in my opinion

Wake me when he visits. Or even sets a date to visit. Until then, those things don't mean anything.

Bill Greene also said in a chat that was just his opinion. I like facts more than opinions. And a maybe visit is more "credible" than an actual visit? I see.

 

[Buckeye86]

Wake me when he visits. Or even sets a date to visit. Until then, those things don't mean anything.

Bill Greene also said in a chat that was just his opinion. I like facts more than opinions. And a maybe visit is more "credible" than an actual visit? I see.

Couldn't you say the same thing about Cravens? Cravens visit isn't a fact until it actually happens. Last time I checked kids change their minds about planned visits constantly.

Also, according to the official visits thread, Cravens doesn't have a visit date planned in the first place. I also don't see anything about a planned visit in his thread.

Am I missing out on some premium info somewhere?

Either way, getting from Alliance to Columbus is just a little bit easier than from California- no matter what you may or may not have said about making the trip.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I guess I don't get that buchtel's post, even if you disagree, merits the mocking.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

Couldn't you say the same thing about Cravens? Cravens visit isn't a fact until it actually happens. Last time I checked kids change their minds about planned visits constantly.

Also, according to the official visits thread, Cravens doesn't have a visit date planned in the first place. I also don't see anything about a planned visit in his thread.

Am I missing out on some premium info somewhere?

Either way, getting from Alliance to Columbus is just a little bit easier than from California- no matter what you may or may not have said about making the trip.

It's way easier to get to Columbus from Alliance, sure. But you have to want to come...has that been indicated?

Most Buckeye fans are piecing this together because it sounds good in our favor, but if we separate our fandom from the facts, it shows that he's not showing ANY signs of wavering. It's a long way to go and Urban is putting on the full court press, but so is Mattison, who some would say is an equally impressive recruiter.

 

[Buckeye86]

I guess I don't get that buchtel's post, even if you disagree, merits the mocking.

I found this

Once he visits or is quoted as saying something regarding tOSU. I don't see it proper to add him to the list when he's a member of a different class & there's no solid info on him switching currently.

to be a humorous double standard in a "best guess" list. Particularly when a guy like Su'a Cravens made the cut.

I found this

All info out there is opinion, right now. It's a long way to go.

to be a ridiculous justification for not including a recruit in a projection when the statement can be applied almost universally.

And I found this

I'll add Thomas once I see fit.

to be humorously boastful which triggered my mock reflex.

I hope that helps to clarify.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

I found this



to be a humorous double standard in a "best guess" list. Particularly when a guy like Su'a Cravens made the cut.

I found this



to be a ridiculous justification for not including a recruit in a projection when the statement can be applied universally.

And I found this



to be humorously boastful which triggered my mock reflex.

I hope that helps to clarify.

Is it not equally, or more, humorously boastful to add another team's commit to my list even though there's no evidence of him switching?

I'll add him once a reason is given. What's boastful about that?

 

[jwinslow]

Is it not equally, or more, humorously boastful to add another team's commit to my list even though there's no evidence of him switching?

I'll add him once a reason is given. What's boastful about that?

Your list was not a realistic guess. It was a list including longshots you covet who have some interest but aren't favoring osu.

Thomas is a much better possibility than Bosa or Cravens. I am also taking a wait and see approach for Thomas but there is a definite double standard here. Those two are the top prospects in the country with all signs pointing to them staying in their region.

There are a lot of people close to Thomas that believe he will flip.

Kyle Kalis vowed to be the Brewster of the osu 13 class a week before flipping. Kids know how to play the game

 

[buchtelgrad04]

Your list was not a realistic guess. It was a list including longshots you covet who have some interest but aren't favoring osu.

Thomas is a much better possibility than Bosa or Cravens. I am also taking a wait and see approach for Thomas but there is a definite double standard here. Those two are the top prospects in the country with all signs pointing to them staying in their region.

There are a lot of people close to Thomas that believe he will flip.

Kyle Kalis vowed to be the Brewster of the osu 13 class a week before flipping. Kids know how to play the game

Not every OSU recruit has favored OSU this early in the process. My list was including guys who have expressed interest in visiting. Dymonte hasn't, thus far. True, those guys are more than likely to stay in their region, but once they hit campus all bets are off.

What's the double standard?

 

[buckeyegunners]

Not sure what evidence you need, we have our reasons to why we think he'll flip and they are pretty valid. Certainly not a lock at this point but more likely than Cravens or Bosa coming here.

It's just a prediction and the prediction of a lot of us is the pressure of Brionte, Meyer, and whoever else plus the fact he always wanted to be a Buckeye will be enough to turn his back on Michigan.

Being committed publicly is not always being committed. Shane Morris is a kid committed to Michigan. Dymonte Thomas is a kid likely trying to figure out what he's going to do, there is a lot of pressure on him to choose Ohio State and also a lot of pressure not to turn his back on Michigan, a school he likes as well.

All we know is what Dymonte tells writers, if he has open communication to Ohio State then no sane person would say he's committed. If he has told Ohio State coaches that he doesn't want to be called ever and to quit trying then that is obviously a tremendous sign for Michigan. I don't know the answer to that question but been rumors that he's definitely listening which is a great sign for us as it was for Michigan when Kalis was listening to them.

 

[buchtelgrad04]

I never said Dymonte wouldn't be in this class. I said there is nothing out there that warrants him being on a "final recruit" list.

OSU fans have their reasons why he'll flip and scUM fans have their reason why he'll stay. No one knows, so I'm not sure why folks took offense to me not adding him to my list.

At this time, I don't see how anyone can say, definitively, that Dymonte will be in this class or who is more likely than who to end up anywhere. Because if DT is "playing the game" who can say where anyone will land? I'm sure he's not the only one "playing the game."

 

[Muck]

Particularly when a guy like Su'a Cravens made the cut.

Is Cravens verbally committed to another school?

 

[Buckeye86]

Is Cravens verbally committed to another school?

He will be sooner or later.

 

[Muck]

He will be sooner or later.

So no. At least man up enough say it directly.

Whether you agree or disagree with his opinion buchtel was at least being internally consistent. To ridicule him for consciously omitting players currently committed to other schools is just silly.

 

[Buckeye86]

So no. At least man up enough say it directly.

I didn't realize trolling questions warranted manly answers. My bad.

Whether you agree or disagree with his opinion buchtel was at least being internally consistent. To ridicule him for consciously omitting players currently committed to other schools is just silly.

I guess we'll have to disagree on that one, for all the reasons that have already been covered.