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tOSU at Minnesota, Thurs. Sep 2nd, 8 ET on Fox

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bukIpower said:
I disagree... Morgan is better than most QBs we will play. Yeah he doesn't have the skill to throw to but Morgan is a solid QB.
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He's solid in the fact that he makes few mistakes. His coaches put him in his best spot to be successful and lean heavily on Ibrahim. He can't throw all over the field and beat you though which makes our defensive posture that much more maddening, An occasional zone accompanied by zone blitz schemes would have likely turned him into putty. Even still we should have had him more often in long yardage situations but he had a wide open check down every play
 
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Powair7s said:
I'm not saying it was targeting, but there was 100% head to head contact. You don't fall limp to the ground like that without taking a shot to the head. I think it was a solid play by Ransom, we were lucky the refs didn't call it based on what we saw in the past.
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If there was helmet to helmet it was inertia not initial contact or leading which is impossible to stop from happening. He brought his arms through his shoulders to the top of the WR shoulder pads and delivered a hit. It was perfect. If people dont want to get hurt or head injuries, don't join the military and don't freaking play football!
 
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Powair7s said:
I'm not saying it was targeting, but there was 100% head to head contact. You don't fall limp to the ground like that without taking a shot to the head. I think it was a solid play by Ransom, we were lucky the refs didn't call it based on what we saw in the past.
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Bestbuck36 said:
If there was helmet to helmet it was inertia not initial contact or leading which is impossible to stop from happening. He brought his arms through his shoulders to the top of the WR shoulder pads and delivered a hit. It was perfect. If people dont want to get hurt or head injuries, don't join the military and don't freaking play football!
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Bestbuck36 nailed it....

The initial contact was Ransom's shoulder/chest to the WR's shoulder. There was a residual helmet to helmet contact; however, I'm guessing that the WR's injury was caused by the whiplash of the initial hit, not the subsequent helmet to helmet contact. Ransom was not running beside the WR, he was running full speed toward the WR:

FORCE & MOTION

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Impulse & Momentum Equation (Universal Law of Ass Kicking)

Entire article: https://www.martial-science.com/momentum--impact-force.html
 
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Offense:

- Stroud settled in nicely after some early jitters, it was his first start, makes sense to me

- Williams and Henderson are a nasty 1-2 punch, extremely effective but also bring a completely different look...not sure where Teague will fall in all of this

- O-Line is terrific

Defense:

- secondary wasn't great but oddly enough most of their production seemed to come in the middle of the field...the young outside corners looked pretty damn good besides a couple penalties

- the linebackers were getting sucked in pretty badly on the play action, clearly a reason for their success throwing over the middle

- Mitchell and Simon should be the primary linebackers

- the thing that worries me the most (and its not even close) is the serious lack of a pass rush...Harrison made a great play but the D line was hardly getting noticeable pressure
 
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RhodeIslandBuck said:
Defense:
- the thing that worries me the most (and its not even close) is the serious lack of a pass rush...Harrison made a great play but the D line was hardly getting noticeable pressure
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Yeah me too. possibly it was due to:

1. Minnesota had a very good OL
2. Minnesota played with more than 5 offensive linemen on a lot of plays.
3. After Ibrahim's early success running the ball, maybe they were respecting the run too much on passing situations.

Unfortunately, Gant got was to close to the QB on one play and nullified an INT.
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Yeah me too. possibly it was due to:

1. Minnesota had a very good OL
2. Minnesota played with more than 5 offensive linemen on a lot of plays.
3. After Ibrahim's early success running the ball, maybe they were respecting the run too much on passing situations.

Unfortunately, Gant got was to close to the QB on one play and nullified an INT.
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Minnesota also held like MFers but this is the big 10 which means everyone can hold like MFers and get away with it
 
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ScriptOhio said:
Yeah me too. possibly it was due to:

1. Minnesota had a very good OL
2. Minnesota played with more than 5 offensive linemen on a lot of plays.
3. After Ibrahim's early success running the ball, maybe they were respecting the run too much on passing situations.

Unfortunately, Gant got was to close to the QB on one play and nullified an INT.
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The defensive pressure was there all game. Morgan was not comfortable in that game. Especially early.

As its pointed out Minnesota often played with 6 OL on the field at the same time and they ran the ball well too which takes away opportunity to pressure.
 
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RhodeIslandBuck said:
Offense:

- Stroud settled in nicely after some early jitters, it was his first start, makes sense to me

- Williams and Henderson are a nasty 1-2 punch, extremely effective but also bring a completely different look...not sure where Teague will fall in all of this

- O-Line is terrific

Defense:

- secondary wasn't great but oddly enough most of their production seemed to come in the middle of the field...the young outside corners looked pretty damn good besides a couple penalties

- the linebackers were getting sucked in pretty badly on the play action, clearly a reason for their success throwing over the middle

- Mitchell and Simon should be the primary linebackers

- the thing that worries me the most (and its not even close) is the serious lack of a pass rush...Harrison made a great play but the D line was hardly getting noticeable pressure
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It was really bad and when it didn't even make sense. Like the last TD they scored in the 4th there was no reason to bite so bad on play action. Way too much man tonight IMO.
 
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Currently enjoying the win in MSP...will break it down in more detail but shoot, thank your lucky stars we just escaped with a victory here. I walked away happy just to have a win and I think anyone in Minneapolis for the game probably feels the same. That place was rocking and they wanted to beat Ohio State in the worst way. That had to be hard on Stroud.
 
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RB07OSU said:
Currently enjoying the win in MSP...will break it down in more detail but shoot, thank your lucky stars we just escaped with a victory here. I walked away happy just to have a win and I think anyone in Minneapolis for the game probably feels the same. That place was rocking and they wanted to beat Ohio State in the worst way. That had to be hard on Stroud.
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That brings up an interesting question. Just how valuable was their home field advantage last night? I'll go further and say is was significantly more than the 3 points that this article says their home field crowd advantage in Minnesota is worth:

What Home-Field Advantage Is Worth For Every College Football Team in 2021

Minnesota 3.0 points

Entire article: https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/home-field-advantage-college-football-betting-2021
 
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bukIpower said:
The defensive pressure was there all game. Morgan was not comfortable in that game. Especially early.

As its pointed out Minnesota often played with 6 OL on the field at the same time and they ran the ball well too which takes away opportunity to pressure.
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I agree with your assessment about pressure. It's hard to rack up sacks when the opposing QB takes off or tosses the ball in under 2 seconds. The first few pass plays, Morgan took off about as soon as he finished his drop.

It was more than 6 OL. It was as many as 7, and 8 if you count the fact that whoever it was was not in there to catch a pass.
 
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Of the seven players who started in the back seven for Ohio State’s defense on Thursday night at Minnesota, only one of them had ever started a game for the Buckeyes before.

That player was Josh Proctor, and by the end of the game, he wasn’t on the field anymore either.
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What wasn’t known until Thursday was that the Buckeyes would also be without their only returning cornerbacks who saw significant playing time last season. Cameron Brown didn’t even make the trip to Minnesota and was listed as unavailable for Thursday’s game, while Sevyn Banks was also held out of action, though Ryan Day said after the game that Banks would have been available to play in an “emergency” capacity. Marcus Williamson, who started at the cover safety/slot cornerback position last season, also did not see the field against Minnesota although he made the trip and was in uniform.
 
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Definitely not the most solid game, but I’ll take 1-0 for the first game of the season in a conference/road/night/rainy environment with a ton of young blood to open things up.

Cheers, fellas! Here’s to 1-0 and lots of room for improvement. I was a bit nervous about this one with all the unknowns, so I’m happy to be heading in for some weekend football with an undefeated record for the good guys.
 
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