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Tim Beck (HC Coastal Carolina)

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kujirakira said:
Sometimes I wonder if people even watched the game.
MSU attempted the same number of passes... it doesn't help that our receivers couldn't hang onto it.
But that's why Tressel ball is so well suited to inclement weather and the Big.
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MSU was also able to run the ball so they didn't need to pass. FYI Matt Finkes just made a statement that JT did have time to throw occasionally so I must not be the only one who didn't watch the game.
 
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kujirakira said:
Sometimes I wonder if people even watched the game.
MSU attempted the same number of passes... it doesn't help that our receivers couldn't hang onto it.
But that's why Tressel ball is so well suited to inclement weather and the Big.
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It's not even the same thing. Our D had to at least respect the possibility of throws or screens. They had to decide if we were running QB run to the right or QB run to the left.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
It's not even the same thing. Our D had to at least respect the possibility of throws or screens. They had to decide if we were running QB run to the right or QB run to the left.
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We both passed the same number of times... we ran QBs about the same number of times... the offenses were mirror images of each other for long stretches. The difference was that their OLine got enough first downs to keep their D fresh... ours couldn't get anything.

In fact if you want to be technical, we were far more balanced at 16 passes / 29 runs (some of which were meant to be passes)
While MSU was 16 passes / 51 runs.
Besides, the weather prohibited either team from passing much. Both staffs were clearly aware of that on offense and defense. And hardly either side passed at all in the 2nd half.

With the offense unable to stay on the field for any time, they wore our DLine down. The OLine proved to be inept at creating holes for Eze or buying JT time to throw... which we've seen coming for awhile now, not unlike how our D played against MSU and Clemson in 2013. The OLine has inexplicably underperformed all season... and today they ran into a perfect storm (pardon the pun) for Dantonio and co. to exploit that weakness.
 
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Ryan36_1 said:
Not a Beck fan by any stretch of the imagination, but perhaps this thread should be locked for a while until everyone gets it out of their system.

Sounds like we have a lot of good candidates on this board to be delivering pizza based on the solid analysis we are getting.
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Until HE gets out of the system? LOL, sorry, that was bad on my part.

People are venting. Nobody's making it personal. I don't see anything wrong with the thread at the moment.
 
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The defense also was playing a QB who had NOTHING for our secondary. Everyone keeps saying you can't blame the defense but I beg to differ. You had strong winds, rain, and QBS who were terrified to stand in the pocket yet we rolled with 7 in the box all game.

MSU literally played this like xbox. Put the offense in a passing formation to scheme us out of stacking the box and then ran right at us. We didn't gamble, we didn't load the box and for whatever reason we kept our safeties 10 yards from the LOS when it was obvious what was coming. We should've and could've stopped that offense for nothing but just failed to take the necessary steps to take what they were doing.
 
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Okay guys...I'm not one to play the "I told you so, card...."

I so wanted this hire to work for you. I immediately had my reservations based on past history, obviously. And, true, I've given Beck more crap than any of you guys have.

So this will be a fact filled rant of why you guys need to cut ties sooner rather than later.

I thought, "Well, Beck never had three Heisman Trophy candidates on one roster in his career. No way even he could screw this up..."

Then I watched the game today. I've watched other games this year, but this one brings back memories, I tell ya.

This game reminded me of quite a few here in Lincoln...and watching it unfold again was like having an out of body experience

So, without further adieu - here is why you guys should part ways with one Tim Beck...

From last year's Sparty Loss in East Lansing (from the OWH):

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_ef9e373b-4ad6-582a-8fea-762f4de95ede.html

It was disappointing to see Nebraska come out of the second half with no adjustments on the first drive, which went backward after three plays. The wide receiver screen, even when Bell was in the game, wasn’t doing much, and without Bell should have been shelved. It wasn’t. Nebraska went sideways too many times. Kind of thought we might see some more of the diamond formation, with more Imani Cross and Terrell Newby involved.
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From the Melvin Gordon Record Setting game last year:

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_875160ee-3227-5d7c-8b5d-04275b6a04ca.html

Things early looked to be in Tim Beck’s favor. He was focusing on the run, with Abdullah and Armstrong, and his offense looked confident doing it. Then things unraveled, quickly, including some questionable play calling, although that’s hardly what did in the Huskers. However, it did seem Nebraska became too heavily dependent on Armstrong’s arm too early — like, when Nebraska still had the lead.
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From the Debacle in Lincoln against the Varmints last year....

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_6b0e449f-9d4c-5d84-8048-6c07546b5d5c.html

Yes, the second-and-1 passing play, after Nebraska had been so successful running the football, was bad. Pelini admitted so, but also added, “I wasn’t expecting us to take a sack in that situation.” Want something worse? How about the passing plays to start the second half, after you thought maybe Beck had discovered something late in the first half with running the ball out of the I-formation. Nope. Two sacks and a short field later, Minnesota was in prime position for a touchdown. A disastrous start to the second half, and a momentum changer for the game. All because Beck wouldn’t stick with what was working.
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From the Bowl game against USC last year:

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_7330fcd7-24f5-5b7d-9b23-19f4d1a7978d.html

You kind of figured Tim Beck might let loose in his final game as Husker offensive coordinator, and he didn’t disappoint. Whether or not you like seeing Armstrong air it out in an up-tempo offense, credit Beck for establishing an identity and sticking with it. Scoring points certainly wasn't a problem. And by the way, where was that middle screen to Abdullah against a pressuring defense all season?
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I'll go two seasons back....to the UCLA game:

http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_537f6377-95e3-5e5e-8d84-0add8e63cdf7.html

Beck said UCLA was loading the box and daring Nebraska to throw, so why not some deep play-action passes, rather than the assortment of bubble screens and short throws? And it didn’t seem as if Nebraska had a problem running the ball against a loaded box when Imani Cross had carries of 8, 6 and 5 yards in the first half. He wasn’t heard from again. Perplexing.
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And to the game in Varmint land....
http://journalstar.com/sports/huske...cle_185b9a18-591f-55c0-9bb6-0116087c2c2d.html

Why did Nebraska get away from the run and rely more on passing? “It fit for the game what they were doing,” Beck said. “We didn’t make plays, all over the field. We just didn’t make plays, at every position.” Abdullah, aside from his fumble, made plays, but didn’t get the ball enough. Nebraska didn’t have a first-down pass gain positive yards after the first quarter. Abdullah, meanwhile, helped Nebraska average 8.8 yards on first-down runs for the game. Yet, Nebraska had an even split of 30 passes, 30 runs.
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Let's look at the offensive scoring against the team we played both last year and this year:

OPPONENT .. 2014 .. 2015
Va Tech .... 21 .... 42
Indiana .... 42 .... 34
Maryland ... 52 .... 49
Penn St. ... 31 .... 38
Rutgers .... 56 .... 49
Minnesota .. 31 .... 28
Illinois ... 55 .... 28
Mich St. ... 49 .... 14
Michigan ... 42 .... ??

Almost didn't include last year's VT game because of how green JT, Zeke, and the OL were. If you were the set aside that VT games, you'll see that we scored more points this year than last year against exactly one opponent of other eight. The 35-point differential of the MSU games is simply inexcusable, weather conditions or not...
 
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bukIpower said:
With Beck it's hard to ask someone who doesn't know our system to learn it and master it then teach it to our quarterbacks. Hard to teach when you don't know it
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This.

I still don't know why we brought in a pro style coach that had mediocre success at a program still clinging to its successes 20 years ago. Why weren't dollars thrown at Frost or any OC that runs up tempo, spread formations?

Beck won't be gone this offseason, but I fully expect next year to be his final test.
 
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