Being diabetic, a lower carb option is the 'protein burger'. What this means, is that instead of a bun, they use large lettuce leaves. Warning, it gets sloppy early, so don't do a gobble-and-go or you'll wear it on your clothes. Oh, and once you start, you're not putting it down lest it fall apart. You're right Dubs, In-N-Out needs to up their fry game. What have prices done on their burgers lately? Had a Deli Delicious 8" sub, chicken and nothing else special, plus drink, came to $18.40. Gave them a twenty and told them to keep the change. PS, on the above, get 'animal style' which simply means grilled onions. Get the flavor of onions, without the dragon breath that goes along with raw.