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Things got a little out of control @ OSU last night..

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THEWOOD;1923059; said:
I lived on 12th Ave in 2000 my sophomore year...I will never forget ChitFEST!! Crazy [Mark May] went down. I felt really bad for the people who parked their cars on the street that night.

One of my fondest memories of freshman year was going to "Ski Club" night at Sloopy's. WOW. I felt so cool, yet I was only 18. Hell Steve Bellisari was working the door!!!!
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HAHA were you at the "Ski Club's" 30+ Kegger pig roast that got busted up by the cops before dark? I had some wild nights with those Ski Club guys
 
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The Columbus cops definitely suck around the university district, but if you're partying in the middle of the street or even on the wrong side of the sidewalk, you've got to expect something bad to happen. Common sense. They really need to close off the street for these block parties and let people roam the streets without getting in the way of traffic. If CPD was really interested in being proactive, they'd partner with the students and Off Campus Student Services to block the streets off.

I lived off campus in the early 2000's when Chittenden, 13th, and Norwich had huge riots. The parties were amazing, but it led to such a huge police presence lining the sidewalks up and down the area that nobody dared leave their house. The students are going to regret it if they push their luck too far. You can have a great party without it spilling into the streets. Fence off your yard, have someone half-checking ID's and kicking out the drifters, and keep the music reasonable.
 
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BuckeyeMac;1922853; said:
Unfortunately it's true, they hate OSU students for no reason. Outside of campus, they're great cops, but at OSU it's their goal to screw you over. It's really sad.

Im not sure who said it a page or two back, but most of the time at parties and such, they go smoothly until the cops show up. Then all hell breaks loose
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The history I was taught as a freshman in 1961 was that during the depression Columbus recruited cops from the South assuming there would be labor demonstrations at Jeffery Mining Equipment and the railroad and they would need folks willing to bust heads -- a task made easier if the heads you were busting were not old neighbors or relatives.

Those same cops gave us a hard time, but then again we gave them a hard time too. You spend a couple of weekends dealing with drunk kids and see how much fun it is. Then came the anti-war years and the constant shouts of "pigs" and "pigs off campus!" and you can imagine where some long term attitudes were formed.

One thing I would say in response to Ord's comments about South side cops, most urban police forces require at least 2 years of college for admission to the police academy. The economic difference has thus lessened since the 60s.

Then too, most college kids also have access to lawyers. You want to see some real head busting spend some time in the black and Appalachian neighborhoods where the prospects of legal action are lessened.
 
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cincibuck;1923120; said:
Then too, most college kids also have access to lawyers.
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That wasn't my experience. It wasn't always a financial issue either. Who wants to drag their dirty laundry into a courtroom for the public record to make note of. I'm sure the CPD doesn't mess around with their accusations of things that you have to prove you didn't do if you take enough of their time and money to take them into a courtroom.
 
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Buckeye86;1923135; said:
That wasn't my experience. It wasn't always a financial issue either. Who wants to drag their dirty laundry into a courtroom for the public record to make note of. I'm sure the CPD doesn't mess around with their accusations of things that you have to prove you didn't do if you take enough of their time and money to take them into a courtroom.
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If the possibility of a felony charge exists, or if the student/parents think it could matter in a security check you bet your ass they'll consider going to court -- and not with a court appointed lawyer.
 
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cincibuck;1923232; said:
If the possibility of a felony charge exists, or if the student/parents think it could matter in a security check you bet your ass they'll consider going to court -- and not with a court appointed lawyer.
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I would say 9 time out of 10 in the case of students the possibility of felony charges don't exist. That is extremely unscientific though, so what do I know.
 
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cincibuck;1923120; said:
One thing I would say in response to Ord's comments about South side cops, most urban police forces require at least 2 years of college for admission to the police academy. The economic difference has thus lessened since the 60s.
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My brother is a member of CPD (homicide detective now) and he started out as a patrol officer around the 5th avenue area south of campus. He has a 4 year degree and then went back and got his MBA....so not all cops are illiterate as ORD suggests.

I do remember remember an incident when I was conducting a ride along with him. We pull into a fairly crowded street with cars parked on both sides. As we pull further down the street a guy is double parked. We get out of the cruiser and tell the guy to move the car as it is impending traffic. He is a student and replies that he is waiting for someone to come out of the house and that they should be out in a second. My brother asks him a second time to move the car. The kid spouts the same nonsense. My brother who has just lost his patience now tells the kid to move the car to a specific spot and proceeds to write him a ticket. Moral to the story: If an officer tells you to do something it is generally a good idea to do what he or she asks the first time...
If the kid would have said "no problem officer I move it now", then there wouldn't have been a problem......
 
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Zurp;1923316; said:
I can't believe that the police enjoy being assholes. If it appears that they're being assholes, I'm betting that there is more to the story leading up to their actions.
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Two sides to the coin?

Perhaps dealing with assholes -- especially drunken/drugged up assholes -- especially especially college kids in asshole mode -- often the default mode for same -- leads to police being assholes?

It's not an easy job.
 
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cincibuck;1923379; said:
Two sides to the coin?
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It's a little of both.

When dealing with idiots, there are a lot of times when standing around & giving a long winded polite explanation just isn't possible. So even the cops who aren't assholes can come across as such because they're trying to get a jump done as efficiently as possible...and the people they're dealing with are the aforementioned idiots.

That being said law enforcement does seem to attract more than it's fair share of the wannabee power junkies. The ones who got beat up when they wereids and are now over compensating.
 
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cincibuck;1923379; said:
Two sides to the coin?

Perhaps dealing with assholes -- especially drunken/drugged up assholes -- especially especially college kids in asshole mode -- often the default mode for same -- leads to police being assholes?

It's not an easy job.
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Someone should really educate the cadets about that before they hand them a gun and a badge. That way, if they don't think they can handle it, the general public isn't forced to deal with pieces of shit on power trips.
 
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Wingate1217;1923274; said:
My brother is a member of CPD (homicide detective now) and he started out as a patrol officer around the 5th avenue area south of campus. He has a 4 year degree and then went back and got his MBA....so not all cops are illiterate as ORD suggests.
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Nowhere did I say or even infer that all (or any) cops are illiterate. I did say that there is a deep socio-economic chasm between most Columbus cops and the student body at Ohio State, which tends to play itself out in a chip on the shoulder, arrest first mentality on the part of the cops towards the students. One that most Ohio State students have certainly at least witnessed if not dealt with personally.
 
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