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DaytonBuck;1112370; said:
it's truly a low down dirty shame that more people on BP aren't into this show. It's sad that this show which in addition to be entertaining is also a truly reflective of modern urban america gets looked over. I put this series up there with any novel I've ever read. It's too bad we live in a world where James Patterson is bigger than Kurt Vonnegut.
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Totally agree. I posted somewhere else that I envy anyone who has not started watching this show yet. Flawless series!
 
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ScriptOhio;1112439; said:
I can honestly say that I have never even heard of the show before reading these posts.

Keep in mind that I don't have HBO.
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It's amazing that HBO didn't promote this show more. I never thought that anything would top the first 3 seasons of "The Sopranos", but it doesn't even come close to "The Wire". Although, "The Wire" has earned critical success, it has been relatively ignored by viewers. I don't know why it never really caught on...maybe it's the language/lingo, the complexity, etc. When I first started watching it, I couldn't keep up with the names of all the characters and it made it tough to really follow and understand. EVERY person that I have recommended this show to has ended up saying that it is their favorite show of all time.
 
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Folanator;1112459; said:
So, what was with Marlo in the last show. Is he going back to being a gangster? I am gessing leaving the party and beating those guys up, liking blood, yes, he is not giving up the life.
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That was my take, but did not make since to sell the co-op connection if that was the situation. I just think it was a way to show that Marlo would not be dealing with the stiff business suits type of crowd.
 
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matz2;1112465; said:
It's amazing that HBO didn't promote this show more. I never thought that anything would top the first 3 seasons of "The Sopranos", but it doesn't even come close to "The Wire". Although, "The Wire" has earned critical success, it has been relatively ignored by viewers. I don't know why it never really caught on...maybe it's the language/lingo, the complexity, etc. When I first started watching it, I couldn't keep up with the names of all the characters and it made it tough to really follow and understand. EVERY person that I have recommended this show to has ended up saying that it is their favorite show of all time.
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I have thought about the contrast between viewship numbers and quality of the show, and have come to conclude that it was a blessing in disguise. I think it allowed the show creators to maintain as much control as possible over the storylines and production.

Part of what makes this show great is how "real" and "gritty" it is. The characters remind you of people you know, not of Hollywood models taking time away from looking in the mirror to read their scripts. The "good guys" in The Wire have bigger flaws than the "bad guys"--that's real and you don't see it done as well anywhere else.

Just think about how this show would have evolved if it had a following like Lost or Prison Break (other shows I enjoy). The writers in those shows manipulate the second half of the season based off of the contemporaneous fan reaction to the early part of the season. While there is something to be admired in the writers' abilities to adopt to popular demand on the fly, it makes those shows less of an art, where the artist is able to put his creative product on display as he intended to have it be seen. The parallel in the movie biz to me is Pixar. Although it could be argued that the animated movies are geared to children audiences, Pixar consitently puts out the best product in Hollywood movie after movie. Pixar movies will be great 20 years from now because they are art. The same cannot be said for any other single studio in Hollywood.

I think the same is true for The Wire. The Wire is great today, and will be watching it again 20 years from now. It is as close to "art" as anything I have seen on television.
 
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Folanator;1112459; said:
So, what was with Marlo in the last show. Is he going back to being a gangster? I am gessing leaving the party and beating those guys up, liking blood, yes, he is not giving up the life.
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In the montage at the end, he's on the corner. It's funny he could have had the life that Stringer wanted but he gave it up. To quote Avon, he's just a gangster I suppose.
 
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I will say that my fav scene in the last show was when they were talking about getting the $'s together for the buyout, and the one dude got shot in the head, their only reaction was WTF? Dude, you just made us all come up with $900,000 more in cash??? Not a thought of the guy that just got his crown blown apart. Classic.

OT: I am really looking forward to John Adams. It looks like it is going to be epic.
 
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What a great finale, by the way. It was great to see Cheese finally get his. I loved Daniels sticking to his guns and refusing to juke the stats. He was always one of my favorite characters. A hard ass who always stood up for what was right, who was loyal to his men and the job, even though it ultimately cost him his job as commissioner. Michael becoming the next Omar was a surprising to me. I should have the parallels before, as he seemed to live by the same moral code Omar did. I never understood the Sydnor character until he was talking with Judge Phelan. Seems like he is picking up McNaulty's torch and running with it. Duquan becoming a dope fiend was hard to see. He is the same kind of loving, caring character as Bubbles and deserved better.

I just think the depth and detail of the characters and stories in The Wire are completely unmatched in any kind of entertainment medium. It was truly interesting how Simon and Burns showed us where these characters came from, and where they're going. The show just shows how everyone and everything in our life influences who we are. The Wire was truly art in its finest form.
 
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