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The Walking Dead (Official Thread)

I'd guess:

Sasha gets returned with the hood (i.e. Holly). But Holly's death was never shown in the graphic novel, Sasha's probably won't be shown either, other than her taking the poison pill and she turns while the hood is on.

And the junkyard is in cahoots with the Saviors, with Jadis being the "little bird" that is telling Negan about the Survivors' plans.

After credits scene, something in relation to The Whisperers.


nah it aint Jadis its Gregory
 
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Damn, even with the cliché moments, that was about the best 90 minutes of tv I've watched. I know the show has lost momentum at times, but that might have been the best episode of the entire TWD in my eyes. I don't want to throw out any spoilers but King Ezekiel has pretty much saved the show to me, he's a certified badass. Can't wait for the next season now, which was a very different sentiment I had at the end of last season.
 
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Damn, even with the cliché moments, that was about the best 90 minutes of tv I've watched. I know the show has lost momentum at times, but that might have been the best episode of the entire TWD in my eyes. I don't want to throw out any spoilers but King Ezekiel has pretty much saved the show to me, he's a certified badass. Can't wait for the next season now, which was a very different sentiment I had at the end of last season.

I feel like I couldn't disagree more. Almost everything about that episode was awful. The writing. The acting. The editing. For the sake of avoiding spoilers, I'll save my rundown of total nonsense from the finale last night for a couple of days.
 
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I'm just glad they didn't kill off Jerry yet.

He takes cobbler into battle.

The Kingdom's become the best thing about the show. The guy playing Ezekial does a pretty good job in putting some depth and nuance into a character who would come off as purely cartoonish in the hands of a lesser actor. And speaking of cartoonish, can we finish off the garbage people quickly.
 
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The good: Something finally happened.

The bad: TWD's writing and production team are pure fucking garbage.

Almost everything about the episode sucked.

Sasha: Her relationship with Abraham was so poorly developed that anything more than one flashback was a TOTAL waste of time and an unnecessary attempt by the writers to get the audience to care about a couple that existed for approximately one episode. I did like that she set herself up to be a zombie to take out Negan, but it turned out to be completely unnecessary and ineffective.

Rick: Fucking idiot. "Hey, weird group I barely know, here's a bunch of guns!" I also tend to think that taunting the man about to kill your son is a particularly bad idea. But hey, Rick's a moron, so it fits.

Garbage people: I don't get it at all. The show didn't do anything to develop this group of characters. I have no idea how it is that they are not already subjugated by the Saviors and yet they are apparently aligned with them now after evading them for so long.

The Showdown: When the Garbage People turned on Rick, that was checkmate. I knew, in that moment, the show would have to do something incredibly unrealistic to get them out of it. And they did, by having the Hilltop and the Kingdown show up at THE SAME DAMN TIME. The fighting was impossible to follow, poorly captured. There was one point where Ezekiel and his group appear to be chasing people down the street of Alexandria and it feels to me, as a viewer, like I'm right there... in the studio... because the camera work and editing was that fucking bad. Also, how did nobody major die during this sequence? Bullets were flying everywhere.

The Tiger: Does this animal just magically know who the bad guys are? And if he's that fucking smart, why didn't he kill Negan (who had a bat in his hands) over some random dude just standing there? Oh, I know... because they need Negan for next season.

I hated it. The whole episode. The whole season. The characters are too stupid for any of this to make sense. All of them.
 
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Almost everything about the episode sucked.

Sasha: Her relationship with Abraham was so poorly developed that anything more than one flashback was a TOTAL waste of time and an unnecessary attempt by the writers to get the audience to care about a couple that existed for approximately one episode. I did like that she set herself up to be a zombie to take out Negan, but it turned out to be completely unnecessary and ineffective.

Rick: Fucking idiot. "Hey, weird group I barely know, here's a bunch of guns!" I also tend to think that taunting the man about to kill your son is a particularly bad idea. But hey, Rick's a moron, so it fits.

Garbage people: I don't get it at all. The show didn't do anything to develop this group of characters. I have no idea how it is that they are not already subjugated by the Saviors and yet they are apparently aligned with them now after evading them for so long.

The Showdown: When the Garbage People turned on Rick, that was checkmate. I knew, in that moment, the show would have to do something incredibly unrealistic to get them out of it. And they did, by having the Hilltop and the Kingdown show up at THE SAME DAMN TIME. The fighting was impossible to follow, poorly captured. There was one point where Ezekiel and his group appear to be chasing people down the street of Alexandria and it feels to me, as a viewer, like I'm right there... in the studio... because the camera work and editing was that fucking bad. Also, how did nobody major die during this sequence? Bullets were flying everywhere.

The Tiger: Does this animal just magically know who the bad guys are? And if he's that fucking smart, why didn't he kill Negan (who had a bat in his hands) over some random dude just standing there? Oh, I know... because they need Negan for next season.

I hated it. The whole episode. The whole season. The characters are too stupid for any of this to make sense. All of them.
seeing the tiger maul people was awesome out of context....I'll give them that. but the dialog there was brutal. there's a real life tiger chasing people down, that's not time for you to be cracking jokes, Negan. and when that 2nd guy got mauled......oh man. Negan is standing right there, he delivers some cornball line, steps out of frame, some random goon steps in his exact place, and he's mowed down by a tiger seconds later. like......oh man that was ALMOST Negan! look how close he almost came to kicking it. :roll2:
 
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Let's add some...how stupid and useless are the average Saviors? One pulled Sasha off of Negan and immediately got mauled...uh, we're not talking about bad-assed Sasha anymore, it's one fucking Walker. And these are the assholes we're supposed to think everyone is afraid of? And the whole Garbage people...fuck that shit all to hell. Fuck the guy who wrote that. And then fuck the next guy for not coming up with something better. What was the deal for? 10 or 12? 10 or 12 what? Nice exposition. And why when Michonne and Carl are jumping the Garbagers in the chaos, does Rick magically stand there until she shoots him in the ass? You've taken out 5000 walkers at once by yourself but now you're scared of one dirty stick bitch with a pistol? And somebody please, please, please tell me how you could be stupid enough to think that shutting a person in a coffin for several hours is, like, a good idea? Even the last speech by Maggie, that sounded like a great Series Closer, not a season finale going off to war. The whole thing invokes some emotion in spots but jeeezys these writers bite JarJar wang.
 
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