The Race Card

[Taosman]

Actually business HAS created thousands of jobs. If you've been paying attention, that's what has happened. And feeding people, I personally am a member of a church with 3 outreach missions providing 6 meals a week. And that's just my church. The homeless in our community are provided with 2 meals every single day by a church congregation. And that's just the little bit that I actually know about. Of course there are dozens of other churches doing it too and I don't even know them. The fact that you claim not to know of a single one screams of an incredible lack of awareness of your surroundings or an unwillingness to acknowledge it. Beyond that, it also suggests you're not part of the solution, because if you were, you'd know about some of these people and organizations. You simply couldn't help knowing about SOME of the outreach if you were part of the solution.

Want to work at McDonald's? That's where the jobs are you talk about. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/28/b...low-wage-jobs-than-better-paid-ones.html?_r=0

 

[Taosman]

Actually business HAS created thousands of jobs. If you've been paying attention, that's what has happened. And feeding people, I personally am a member of a church with 3 outreach missions providing 6 meals a week. And that's just my church. The homeless in our community are provided with 2 meals every single day by a church congregation. And that's just the little bit that I actually know about. Of course there are dozens of other churches doing it too and I don't even know them. The fact that you claim not to know of a single one screams of an incredible lack of awareness of your surroundings or an unwillingness to acknowledge it. Beyond that, it also suggests you're not part of the solution, because if you were, you'd know about some of these people and organizations. You simply couldn't help knowing about SOME of the outreach if you were part of the solution.

It's great that your church is doing so much when many simply don't have the money to do that many meals. You missed my point that we need the government to help feed so many people.
But please, don't try to make this personal. My private life is none of your business. I don't know you. You don't know me.
Here is an interesting article backing up my thinking. Ignore it if you think you know better.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david...ople-should-church-do-it-alone_b_1507824.html

 

[matcar]

It's great that your church is doing so much when many simply don't have the money to do that many meals. You missed my point that we need the government to help feed so many people.
But please, don't try to make this personal. My private life is known of your business. I don't know you. You don't know me.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david...ople-should-church-do-it-alone_b_1507824.html



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david...ople-should-church-do-it-alone_b_1507824.html

My church is one of thousands doing that. And then there are other organizations beyond church doing so. But you don't even know that's going on? This isn't personal Taos, but for you to make the outlandish statements you have, it makes it clear that you either aren't part of the solution or aren't willing to admit what's happening right in your midst. Either way, it makes your statements lack substance.

Meanwhile, each of these organizations are run far more efficiently than any government operation because they have little to no bureaucracy. Why would any intelligent person discourage this platform and encourage the opposite...

 

[DubCoffman62]

It's great that your church is doing so much when many simply don't have the money to do that many meals. You missed my point that we need the government to help feed so many people.
But please, don't try to make this personal. My private life is none of your business. I don't know you. You don't know me.
Here is an interesting article backing up my thinking. Ignore it if you think you know better.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david...ople-should-church-do-it-alone_b_1507824.html

This is typical left wing double speak. Call Christianity intolerant for not supporting the gay agenda and then quoting the scriptures to push their big government agenda

>Implying we're all Christians

The only way "the gubmint" can help the poor is by forcibly taking more money from the non-poor through taxation. In the end this inevitably creates more poor people.

 

[Taosman]

My church is one of thousands doing that. And then there are other organizations beyond church doing so. But you don't even know that's going on? This isn't personal Taos, but for you to make the outlandish statements you have, it makes it cakes they you either aren't part of the solution or aren't willing to admit what's happening right in your midst. Either way, it makes your statements lack substance.

Meanwhile, each of these organizations are run far more efficiently than any government operation because they have little to no bureaucracy. Why would any intelligent person discourage this platform and encourage the opposite...

I backed my thoughts up with actual fact. You choose to ignore what is written and documented.
"But churches can't be solely responsible for feeding poor women, children, seniors and disabled people. We also need strong government programs. In fact, all of the food churches and charities provide to hungry and poor people in the United States amounts to only about 6 percent of what the federal government spends on programs such as SNAP and school meals for students. "

And as to a "lack of bureaucracy" being better, where is you proof of that? It just sounds like the same old "government is bad" argument that some are using now. In "theory" a lack of bureaucracy should be better, simpler being thought of as "better". But what is the fact? Where is your documented proof?
And any "intelligent" person would do some research to back his statements.

Let me be clear about my view of this government right now. Congress is a disaster of criminal proportions.(15% approval rating) The outright obstructionism is bad for our country. Bad for everyone but especially those in need and vets. This President has done some good things and some not so good but perhaps his biggest accomplishment is holding Congress in check to some degree and that's why I voted for him twice. It's the Constitutional "checks and balances" in action.

 

[Taosman]

This is typical left wing double speak. Call Christianity intolerant for not supporting the gay agenda and then quoting the scriptures to push their big government agenda

>Implying we're all Christians

The only way "the gubmint" can help the poor is by forcibly taking more money from the non-poor through taxation. In the end this inevitably creates more poor people.

Your cartoon is funny. Thanks.

 

[Taosman]

My church is one of thousands doing that. And then there are other organizations beyond church doing so. But you don't even know that's going on? This isn't personal Taos, but for you to make the outlandish statements you have, it makes it cakes they you either aren't part of the solution or aren't willing to admit what's happening right in your midst. Either way, it makes your statements lack substance.

Meanwhile, each of these organizations are run far more efficiently than any government operation because they have little to no bureaucracy. Why would any intelligent person discourage this platform and encourage the opposite...

Why should the church have some kind of "exclusive" right to feeding America's poor? And yes, I know that other agencies are involved also. Because they are more "efficient"? Efficiency doesn't equate to ability to feed millions. 12.8 million to be somewhat exact. The churches are doing what they can financially to help. But the numbers say it's not enough.
So, your saying I'm not "intelligent" because I see the "numbers" and you don't or can't? Passive/aggressive saying I'm stupid because I don't believe what you believe.

 

[matcar]

Why should the church have some kind of "exclusive" right to feeding America's poor? And yes, I know that other agencies are involved also. Because they are more "efficient"? Efficiency doesn't equate to ability to feed millions. 12.8 million to be somewhat exact. The churches are doing what they can financially to help. But the numbers say it's not enough.
So, your saying I'm not "intelligent" because I see the "numbers" and you don't or can't? Passive/aggressive saying I'm stupid because I don't believe what you believe.

I'm saying you ignorant. Not stupid. Your ignorant because you just stated above that efficiency isn't important when dealing with a high volume issue. How in the world could you possibly know that churches and other community couldn't handle this volume? They are made up of the same people that support the government. So if the government could handle this then it is quite obvious that other groups could in their place. And with the aforementioned efficiency. And yeah, if there are 12 million people needing food, efficiency matters.

 

[matcar]

Oh and you are ignorant because you claim to be ignorant of all the work that these groups are doing. You actually asked someone to show you where these churches are doing this. If it isn't readily apparent where churches and numerous other organizations are doing this, then by definition, that is ignorance...because it's happening all around you.

 

[Taosman]

I'm saying you ignorant. Not stupid. Your ignorant because you just stated above that efficiency isn't important when dealing with a high volume issue. How in the world could you possibly know that churches and other community couldn't handle this volume? They are made up of the same people that support the government. So if the government could handle this then it is quite obvious that other groups could in their place. And with the aforementioned efficiency. And yeah, if there are 12 million people needing food, efficiency matters.

How would I know churches couldn't handle the volume? Because the "numbers" say they can't. It's a matter of dollars that the churches just don't have. Many churches say just that. They don't have enough money to handle an increase in volume no matter if they could be more efficient.
Having enough money is the bottom line.

 

[Mike80]

How would I know churches couldn't handle the volume? Because the "numbers" say they can't. It's a matter of dollars that the churches just don't have. Many churches say just that. They don't have enough money to handle an increase in volume no matter if they could be more efficient.
Having enough money is the bottom line.

guess what hippie - the government doesn't have enough money. The government is not an efficient spender of the money it does have. Throwing money at failed programs is why we're in the situation we're in.

 

[DubCoffman62]

How would I know churches couldn't handle the volume? Because the "numbers" say they can't. It's a matter of dollars that the churches just don't have. Many churches say just that. They don't have enough money to handle an increase in volume no matter if they could be more efficient.
Having enough money is the bottom line.

So people can go get their nails done?

 

[Taosman]

So people can go get their nails done?

Yikes! Pleases, no more Dub! You're killing me! And leaving a bad impression.

 

[DubCoffman62]

Yikes!

I guess that this brings us back to "better policing" as you say. I say it's not worth it, sometimes you have to let people sink or swim.

 

[BayBuck]

And as to a "lack of bureaucracy" being better, where is you proof of that? It just sounds like the same old "government is bad" argument that some are using now.

Pretty effective argument these days.