The Polls (AP, Coaches, & CFP, etc.)

[ORD_Buckeye]

Based on my read of the CFP committee...

ND and Bama are both in regardless at this point. Clemson has a layup against Pitt. Georgia would be in with a win. If Bama beats UGA, then it is obviously between OSU and OU for the 4th spot. I think they have already tipped their hand, they want to pick OU over OSU based on style points throughout the season. I think OSU needs Texas to beat OU a second time to have a real chance of being in.

The dumbest part of it all is we had national media going on air after OSU beat UM and saying "finally we have something to debate" ... no you dolts, having to debate this in the first place is idiotic and we should have a system where there isnt a debate between two power conferences getting a total of 1 team in. Having to choose between two 1-loss conference champs that seem to be almost identical shows what a farce the whole process is in picking these teams arbitrarily.

8 teams
5 P5 Champs
Have a totally transparent BCS type formula to rank teams and then pick:
1 G5 Champ
2 At-Large

Seed the field according to the ranking system

First round at the 4 highest seeded teams stadiums
Second round rotated among the six bowls
Final in an NFL stadium, including cold weather sites.

Having a debate between two 1-loss conference champion bluebloods as to who gets home field advantage is one thing. Having a debate between them as to who gets left out of a playoff shows how fucked up the current system it.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

Who gave them their second loss? We didn't just lose to Iowa. We lost to Oklahoma, too.



No one is making that argument. No one should've expected a CFP bid with 2 losses last year.

As for this year, our loss looks worse than Oklahoma's so I won't feel cheated if it keeps us out. Now, if they lose this Saturday...

Why is the loss the only thing that matters? Do they have a win as good as what we just did to Michigan?

 

[Jake]

Why is the loss the only thing that matters? Do they have a win as good as what we just did to Michigan?

No, and neither does Clemson. But Purdue is bowl eligible because they beat us by 4 touchdowns.

The playoff selection is a beauty contest. For the second straight year we're coming to the party shaking our tits while hoping no one notices the giant wart on the end of our nose.

 

[DZ83CK]

Who gave them their second loss? We didn't just lose to Iowa. We lost to Oklahoma, too.



No one is making that argument. No one should've expected a CFP bid with 2 losses last year.

As for this year, our loss looks worse than Oklahoma's so I won't feel cheated if it keeps us out. Now, if they lose this Saturday...

I get the 2 loss exclusion now. Losing 2 is pretty much going to exclude anyone in almost every season. I'm not arguing about last year so much as the "you lose one and you deserve to be out" logic, because clearly that 1-loss exclusion is not applied consistently. The last part of your reply is why the system is a farce. OSU's loss this year is not worse than Oklahoma's loss. There is no merit in losing, I dont care how close the loss was or who it was against. The concept of moral victories should be completely absent from the committee's analysis - they have plenty of other things to look at.

Now that the CFP committee has established counting losses as a base metric for comparison, two teams with the same number of losses should only be separated based on the quality of their wins and performance in those wins.

 

[Jake]

Absent a Sooner loss, I do think the 2014 route is still possible. Given how we played vs scUM, if the Nerds get "half a hundred" (or more) hung up on them and the game is a blowout, you're putting pressure on the committee.

This is especially true if OU squeaks by Texas in what is essentially a do over for them. The difference, of course, is the Big XII didn't have a CCG in 2014.

 

[UrbanBuckeye]

Absent a Sooner loss, I do think the 2014 route is still possible. Given how we played vs scUM, if the Nerds get "half a hundred" (or more) hung up on them and the game is a blowout, you're putting pressure on the committee.

This is especially true if OU squeaks by Texas in what is essentially a do over for them. The difference, of course, is the Big XII didn't have a CCG in 2014.

Your last sentence I truly believe says it all. You know what though? The Big 12 totally created their own Conference Championship game/award due to being left out in 2014.

I've always thought that was a stupid move. Especially since non conference champs have/are getting in.

.... well now you have your Conference Championship game and it may very well be the thing that keeps a Big 12 team from getting in! How do you like THAT for irony, Big 12 commissioner I will never bother to learn your name?

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

My point is that if your argument is you cant lose a game and still make the CFP, you are dead wrong.

Try some reading comprehension...that's not my argument. My point is that there is a huge difference between a "loss" and a "beatdown", along with who gave you the loss or beatdown. We obviously can lose a game and make the playoffs (see 2014 and 2016), but neither of those losses were close to being beatdowns.

 

[UrbanBuckeye]

Who cares about Texas (yes, I get it).....

I'm rooting so hard for Pitt to pull out their once a year big upset. Heather Dinich's head would explode.

I'm about to go learn their chant and fight song right now just in case.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Absent a Sooner loss, I do think the 2014 route is still possible. Given how we played vs scUM, if the Nerds get "half a hundred" (or more) hung up on them and the game is a blowout, you're putting pressure on the committee.

This is especially true if OU squeaks by Texas in what is essentially a do over for them. The difference, of course, is the Big XII didn't have a CCG in 2014.

I highly doubt it. The committee will just say it was a 5 loss Northwestern team, that's why. Whereas Okie will get credit for beating a top 10 TEXAS IS BACK! I pretty much think we're proper fucked.

 

[bukIpower]

Absent a Sooner loss, I do think the 2014 route is still possible. Given how we played vs scUM, if the Nerds get "half a hundred" (or more) hung up on them and the game is a blowout, you're putting pressure on the committee.

This is especially true if OU squeaks by Texas in what is essentially a do over for them. The difference, of course, is the Big XII didn't have a CCG in 2014.

Why is the loss the only thing that matters? Do they have a win as good as what we just did to Michigan?

Yeah I don't get it either... which is why I believe OSU will be given a lot of credit for winning convincingly. Something OU has failed to do all year if you look at it.

If we wax NW thatll be back to back ass kickings with OU struggling for the last 6 weeks.

Only one team lost by 30 but only one team beat two top 10 teams too.

 

[DZ83CK]

Try some reading comprehension...that's not my argument. My point is that there is a huge difference between a "loss" and a "beatdown", along with who gave you the loss or beatdown. We obviously can lose a game and make the playoffs (see 2014 and 2016), but neither of those losses were close to being beatdowns.

How about not responding to the post then if your point was unrelated.

Virginia Tech. A loss or a beatdown??? Seemed like a beatdown to me. You must believe being close counts as a moral victory of sorts. I dont think there is any benefit from losing, no matter how close the score.

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Virginia Tech. A loss or a beatdown??? Seemed like a beatdown to me.

We were down by seven late in the fourth with the ball driving to tie the game when JT threw the pick six for the two-TD margin. Plus we had a QB starting only his second game since his senior year in high school, with the youngest OL in the country. No way you can compare that loss with the absolute beatdowns we got at Iowa and Purdue. You treat all losses equally...they're not.

 

[BigWoof31]

Be a shame if the Dawgs screwed around and beat Alabama this weekend. A damn shame...

 

[DZ83CK]

We were down by seven late in the fourth with the ball driving to tie the game when JT threw the pick six for the two-TD margin. Plus we had a QB starting only his second game since his senior year in high school, with the youngest OL in the country. No way you can compare that loss with the absolute beatdowns we got at Iowa and Purdue. You treat all losses equally...they're not.

All losses are equally worthless, I believe, and those two losses (VT and PU) are equally bad IMO, with all things considered. The quantity of losses is what truly makes a difference to the CFP committee. If the committee believes in finding merit in losing, they are doing this process wrong. I believe they will compare quality of wins and quantity of losses.

 

[cjmik_75]

Be a shame if the Dawgs screwed around and beat Alabama this weekend. A damn shame...

I’m pulling for them dawgs! I want to see this corrupt CFP blown the fuck up and 2 eSECpn teams again will go a long way to another system I can poke holes in. Besides tOSU is proper fucked either way unless OU, Washington and UCF all fall on their face(s).