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The Polls (AP, Coaches, & CFP, etc.)

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buckeyemania11 said:
Clearly mediocre teams like Kentucky, Florida, Mississippi State & Auburn should not be awarded some biased benefit of the doubt because "Bama is good"

Bama is good because they are good.......nobody else in the SEC has anything to do with that, and shouldnt get some sort of reward for it.
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Thought your comment addressed, specifically, 2 teams making the playoffs and the rankings being set up to help make that happen. It only happens, most likely, by beating Bama. And you know what? Anyone that beats them likely deserves it, and Bama likely still would deserve to go.
 
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ShowMeBuck said:
Thought your comment addressed, specifically, 2 teams making the playoffs and the rankings being set up to help make that happen. It only happens, most likely, by beating Bama. And you know what? Anyone that beats them likely deserves it, and Bama likely still would deserve to go.
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Can you argue that it helps inflate the argument for 2 SEC teams when they comically prop up other mediocre SEC teams to make the top 2 look better? I don't think so. But that's my opinion.
 
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The current CFP Top 25 according to the computer average.

1. Bama
2. Clemson
3. TTUN
4. UGA
4. Oklahoma
7. Ohio State
9. Notre Dame
9. PedSU
10. Washington
11. Mississippi State
13. Fresno State
14. LSU
14. WVU
17. Iowa
18. Auburn
21. Washington State
21. UCF
21. MSU
25. Florida
28. Iowa State
29. Texas
32. Kentucky
34. Boston College
35. NC State
47. Syracuse
 
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The ACC blowing is more shocking than the SEC fluffing by far.

I guess a "close loss" to Clemson is worth more than any win this season. It was pretty much the only reason Texas A&M was over ranked and Syracuse seems to be getting a huge bump for it.

SYRACUSE is a few losses in front of them from being a top 10 team.........Let that sink in for a second. Their best win is against another comically inflated ranked NC State team. 2nd best win......A bad Florida State team. They also lost to Pitt.

The committee just has no direction pretty much, theres no predicting what whackery they will throw out on a week to week basis.
 
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buckeyemania11 said:
The ACC blowing is more shocking than the SEC fluffing by far.

I guess a "close loss" to Clemson is worth more than any win this season. It was pretty much the only reason Texas A&M was over ranked and Syracuse seems to be getting a huge bump for it.

SYRACUSE is a few losses in front of them from being a top 10 team.........Let that sink in for a second. Their best win is against another comically inflated ranked NC State team. 2nd best win......A bad Florida State team. They also lost to Pitt.

The committee just has no direction pretty much, theres no predicting what whackery they will throw out on a week to week basis.
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So the ACC, which also has a network that is owned and run by ESECACCPN, is being pumped a bit by the CFP, which has a "playoff" that was bought and paid for by, you guessed it, ESECACCPN.

Shocker.

Before anyone starts, no it isn't, not really. But if you want to participate in a process to select a "truly worthy" national title playoff participant, there shouldn't be a hint of bias or impropriety. As we've seen last year with Bama and this year with the fluffing of 3 loss ACC and SEC teams, they are going to push the bias as far as they can go until either they are sued or the system collapses because no one is watching the games on TV anymore.

And since neither one is going to happen, and since I seriously doubt the Fox network conferences (B1G, Big 12, Pac-12) are going to break away, things are just going to stay status quo. The CFP (which is the same group that ran the BCS by the way), is betting that everyone will forget the rampant bias built into their rankings which is designed to keep teams from certain conferences at or near the top.
 
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I made the mistake of stopping on Golic & Wingo this morning. The question was: "Would Alabama beat a team made up from the best players from all of UM, ND, and Clemson combined". I mean, yeah...Bama's good. But that's a ludicrous suggestion. So much hype....
 
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What CFB fans across the country want in a playoff and what gets served up to us or shoved down our throats, if you like, are two different things.

The way it is now every week and every game have playoff implications. If you lose you’re pretty well fucked with the current system. Well, unless you’re Bama.

It’s ludicrous really and unfair to the players, coaches and fans of a majority of the schools. I’ve lamented before on my thoughts on a playoff scenario, so I’m not going to repeat it here. Suffice it to say though we could easily eliminate any human bias in how teams are selected and it doesn’t require any computers either.
 
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BuckeyeSoldier said:
so BIG champ, PAC champ, B12 champ, and the best best group of 5 team should just get together every year and play for the "national" championship and tell ESPN to fuck off?
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No... you have those conferences play for the "Fox Sports National Championship" while the ACC and SEC play for the "ESPN National Championship" After a few years ESPN will have succeeded in making their portion of the product completely regionalized in every way, and.. knowing how it's handled other things, probably completely unwatchable at that.
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Can't wait for Herbsteit to start pimping a 2-loss SEC team over 1 loss P5 champions because of his eye test.

At this point though, an ESPN Invitational of 2 SEC, Clemson and Notre Dame shitshow is the best catalyst to both expand to 8 and get rid of the fucking committee idea once and for all.
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computers and nerds who know nothing about football write the algorithms to get a truly unbiased result...no more eye test, no more commentators, no more slurping because if this conference doesn’t do well we’re going bankrupt
 
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ORD_Buckeye said:
Can't wait for Herbsteit to start pimping a 2-loss SEC team over 1 loss P5 champions because of his eye test.

At this point though, an ESPN Invitational of 2 SEC, Clemson and Notre Dame shitshow is the best catalyst to both expand to 8 and get rid of the fucking committee idea once and for all.
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I don't understand how you get to where the public not liking the product is a catalyst that forces ESPN to change anything.

2 SEC, Clemson and ND is exactly what they want. Why would they change anything after they get exactly what they want?
 
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Jaxbuck said:
I don't understand how you get to where the public not liking the product is a catalyst that forces ESPN to change anything.

2 SEC, Clemson and ND is exactly what they want. Why would they change anything after they get exactly what they want?
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There's two aspects to it. The first is ratings. If the rating are down for this (and while I'd hope for that, I'm not saying it will happen) is one avenue that will push for change. The only people that espn will listen to outside of the SEC offices are their advertisers. Are you going to watch that playoff? I'm not, just as I didn't last year. I watched the year Sparty was in though.

More importantly, it might finally paint Delaney (and the B1G ADs) into a corner where he has to show some spine and align with the PAC and B12 and maybe even the mid-majors to force some change. While we need to form some type of coalition with other conferences to force change, we have to be the catalyst for it. One of Delaney's gross miscalculations in this has been, I believe, his mistaken belief that we could have a constructive partnership with the SEC....that the two biggest dogs at the table would be able to coincide. And it worked out for him the first year. Since then, not so much. He underestimated the degree to which football is everything to the SEC and how shameless they would be in squeezing the B1G out of the playoff so they could get a second spot, and how willing and equally shameless a partner they would have in espn to do this.
 
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