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The pain of being unrivaled

To Penn State fans who think they are Ohio State's rival, against Ohio State you have gone:

  1. 8-18 since joining the conference
  2. 4-13 since 2002
  3. 1-6 since Meyer arrived
  4. 1-5 in your last six home games

Just because you've played us tough the last three years doesn't make you our "rival". Any time you doubt that, refer back to the above four points.
 
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To Penn State fans who think they are Ohio State's rival, against Ohio State you have gone:

  1. 8-18 since joining the conference
  2. 4-13 since 2002
  3. 1-6 since Meyer arrived
  4. 1-5 in your last six home games

Just because you've played us tough the last three years doesn't make you our "rival". Any time you doubt that, refer back to the above four points.
Not how rivalries are defined. Before the split into divisions, Illinois was OSU's longest continuous rivalry. Doesn't mean it was always competitive.

Michigan is the only B1G team with a winning record against OSU. PSU has the best winning percentage against OSU out of all the other B1G teams.

The more Buckeye fans scream that PSU is not our rival, the more it shows that they are. Hate, fear, joy over winning, anguish over losing, importance of games...those define a rivalry. Not the pettiness of fans who insist on not recognizing a rivalry out of spite. You care too much, and rightly so. That's why everyone without blinders on sees the rivalry.
 
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Not how rivalries are defined. Before the split into divisions, Illinois was OSU's longest continuous rivalry. Doesn't mean it was always competitive.

Michigan is the only B1G team with a winning record against OSU. PSU has the best winning percentage against OSU out of all the other B1G teams.

The more Buckeye fans scream that PSU is not our rival, the more it shows that they are. Hate, fear, joy over winning, anguish over losing, importance of games...those define a rivalry. Not the pettiness of fans who insist on not recognizing a rivalry out of spite. You care too much, and rightly so. That's why everyone without blinders on sees the rivalry.
Or maybe we do it because it is an obsession of theirs and it gets under their skin when we say they’re not our rivals.

We are trolling them to deny them as a rival and it’s funny.
 
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Or maybe we do it because it is an obsession of theirs and it gets under their skin when we say they’re not our rivals.

We are trolling them to deny them as a rival and it’s funny.
Did you take Michigsn fans seriously during the Cooper years when they said MSU was a bigger rival than OSU? Did that "get under your skin?"

Me neither.
 
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Did you take Michigsn fans seriously during the Cooper years when they said MSU was a bigger rival than OSU? Did that "get under your skin?"

Me neither.

You've clearly stated your position. The rest of the board has stated theirs.

No one is changing anyone's mind on this.

Why not just let it go?
 
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