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The pain of being unrivaled

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MGMT said:
Michigan is back to being Michigan. This is what they are. They’ve been underachieving for 17 years. At some point, even poorer performance will be considered underachieving because this is becoming the norm.

But I’m fine with the fan base being in denial; it’s hilarious to me.
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A program isn't what it is until the fans accept it for what it is. Just because you want Michigan to always be what it is right now doesn't mean it always will be. Lots of teams have down years. The blue bloods keep trying until they get back on top. Some teams spend years in the desert before they get back. (Don't think it can't happen to OSU if Gene Smith ever has to replace Meyer.)

If Michigan is now and forever who they will always be then we might be getting to where PSU is the bigger rival sooner rather than later. I'd prefer to live in a world where the Nits occasionally get a win over one or the other of OSU and Michigan, rarely both, and then two good teams face off in The Game to determine the B1G East and usually the conference champ. I don't know how Buckeye fans manage the cognitive dissonance of wanting Michigan to suck permanently while not recognizing that that would make PSU their #1 rival. I'm especially amazed by how seemingly no one else gets that. I don't think it's all that complicated.
 
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Hetuck said:
A program isn't what it is until the fans accept it for what it is. Just because you want Michigan to always be what it is right now doesn't mean it always will be. Lots of teams have down years. The blue bloods keep trying until they get back on top. Some teams spend years in the desert before they get back. (Don't think it can't happen to OSU if Gene Smith ever has to replace Meyer.)

If Michigan is now and forever who they will always be then we might be getting to where PSU is the bigger rival sooner rather than later. I'd prefer to live in a world where the Nits occasionally get a win over one or the other of OSU and Michigan, rarely both, and then two good teams face off in The Game to determine the B1G East and usually the conference champ. I don't know how Buckeye fans manage the cognitive dissonance of wanting Michigan to suck permanently while not recognizing that that would make PSU their #1 rival. I'm especially amazed by how seemingly no one else gets that. I don't think it's all that complicated.
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because tsun sucking doesn't make someone else our rival

no one else will ever be our rival

I am equally amazed that you don't get that
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Here's all I will say on this.....

Look at the schedule. You will see that, as of today, there are game times for the Ped game and the Indiana game. Then.. a whole bunch of TBD and then....

12:00 noon - scUM

If you look at next year's schedule, that same game will be 12:00 noon at scUM
the following year... 12:00 noon

You see where I'm going with this?
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No, I don't. The Game traditionally starts at noon. They've messed with the start time before, most noticeably in the 2006 #1 vs #2 matchup. I'm all for honoring tradition by keeping the noon kick.

So please, tell us where you're going with that. Surely you're not suggesting that because Michigan is OSU's main rival and they have a long history it means we may conclude that OSU has no other rivals and goddammit don't you dare fucking say that PSU is #2!!!! WAAAAAAHHH!!!

But they're not our rival. They just want to be. We really don't think about them. Really, we think of Michigan State as more of our rival. (Did they hear that? Are they looking? No, no, no! Don't let them see you look! Be cool.)

It's like being back in high school.
 
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Actually, the rivalry was there from the beginning because the two states went to war over Toledo just a few years before. Buckeyes went 6-22-2 the first 30 games. Buckeyes are 37-25-2 in my lifetime, which started in a NC year. I'm not trying to be offensive, Hstead, but I don't really know the Buckeyes record against Penn State and I don't' care. I recall a Dispatch front page picture of Paul Warfield catching a TD pass, in a game delayed by the Kennedy assassination. Did Ohio State play Penn State back then? I couldn't say.

You see where I'm going with this?
 
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Hetuck said:
Define "rival" and explain why OSU has only one. I would like to hear the logic behind that. I'm guessing it amounts to "Harrumph! Get off my lawn!"
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Because football is a religion in Ohio and Michigan is the devil to Buckeye fans.

Ohio State is undeniably PSU's rival and they hate that it's unrequited.

PSU disrupted OSU's season as often as Purdue over a decade or two. They also won titles at a Northwestern clip for a very long time.

MSU was a lot closer than PSU to that fake second rivalry, then they faded. Like Wisconsin. Like Purdue. Like PSU is trying to be now.

Michigan remains a focal point when they are historically terrible under Rich Rod. PSU is only noticed when they are unusually good for the first time in awhile.
 
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Mike80 said:
Back when Illinois mattered I'm sure it was....but even then, while it was a trophy game (and those are always fun), Illinois really was not a true rival either. They had a brief respite from irrelevance in 2002 and 2007 and that's about it.
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Actually, way back when, Illinois was our final game of the season. Not scUM. For that reason alone, they are more worthy of being a rival than Pedo State.
 
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Wingate1217 said:
Now that we have established who our rival is...who is our arch rival?:sneaky:
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Hetuck said:
Notre Dame is a rival but it's a cold rivalry. They rarely play each other but there's a lot of hatred between the fanbases and, when they do play, it's HUGE.

Every team in the conference is a rival. Michigan is OSU's biggest rival, of course. PSU is #2. Over the course of your lifetime, outside of the Michigan game, you'll suffer more from losing to them than anyone else, you'll enjoy beating them more than anyone else. You will fear and hate them (the two go hand-in-hand) more than anyone else. That's what defines a rivalry.

If Michigan doesn't get their shit together before too long we'll risk PSU becoming our #1 rival.
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You speak for yourself.
 
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Hetuck said:
A program isn't what it is until the fans accept it for what it is. Just because you want Michigan to always be what it is right now doesn't mean it always will be. Lots of teams have down years. The blue bloods keep trying until they get back on top. Some teams spend years in the desert before they get back. (Don't think it can't happen to OSU if Gene Smith ever has to replace Meyer.)

If Michigan is now and forever who they will always be then we might be getting to where PSU is the bigger rival sooner rather than later. I'd prefer to live in a world where the Nits occasionally get a win over one or the other of OSU and Michigan, rarely both, and then two good teams face off in The Game to determine the B1G East and usually the conference champ. I don't know how Buckeye fans manage the cognitive dissonance of wanting Michigan to suck permanently while not recognizing that that would make PSU their #1 rival. I'm especially amazed by how seemingly no one else gets that. I don't think it's all that complicated.
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks said:
Here's all I will say on this.....

Look at the schedule. You will see that, as of today, there are game times for the Ped game and the Indiana game. Then.. a whole bunch of TBD and then....

12:00 noon - scUM

If you look at next year's schedule, that same game will be 12:00 noon at scUM
the following year... 12:00 noon

You see where I'm going with this?
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See bold
 
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