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THE GAME, tOSU at tCun, Sat. 11/25, 12pm ET, FOX

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RB07OSU said:
I think I am finally able to talk about the game after listening to Sarah McLachlan on loop for 48 hours. I will not go back and rewatch this one for obvious reasons, so it is off the cuff and brutally honest.

1. I will start at the high level: This loss is unacceptable. We have recruited vastly superior talent to the point where Tcun shouldn't even really keep it that close. The talent disparity is about the same as when we beat the hell out of RRod and Hoke, so yes I am going to put the bulk of the loss on coaching because it sure as shit is not due to talent. Mind you, Day and company lost to an interim coach with better talent. I have been an avid supporter of Day with the emphatic caveat that if he didn't beat Tcun this year, then we probably need to move on. I don't see us letting him go quite yet even though I think we should let him go after whatever bowl game we play in, but he will come back to the hottest seat on the planet imo if he gets another year.

2. In a similar vein, McCord will likely start on Week 1 but on a very short leash. There is plenty of blame to go around and no one play led to the loss, but that pick at the beginning of the 2nd quarter absolutely killed us. Then any time there was the slightest of a pass rush, Kyle panicked and ran directly into it. I know I am beating a dead horse since everyone else has pretty much said it, but he doesn't have the "it" factor. He is essentially a tapioca pudding of a QB and without Marv/Egbuka/X/Henderson next year, I only see it getting worse if he starts most of the season. I rooted for him and he has had moments, but without marked improvement one of Brown or Kienholz will pass him up...hopefully not Brown if he is actually as bad as he looked when he came in this year.

3. The defense cannot get off the field when it matters. That was honestly the only beef I had with the defense this year and it reared its ugly head in a big way on Saturday. That score to start the 2nd half should have been the catalyst to a win, but the defense just rolled over right after that and other than the McCord pick, that would be the defining moment to me in what led to the loss. We can't generate pressure with our front 4 that is comprised of two top 10 overall 5* recruits at DE (JT, Sawyer) and two top 100 overall players at DT (Tyleik, Hall), with several other top guys right behind them. That shit is not ok and a change needs to be made at DL.

4. Our OL play is still not that good. It looked to be improving, but a legit defense exposed us there. We could have won despite that, but having the OL not be a strength is a bad thing if you are trying to win a game like this. The recruiting woes at OL under Stud are burning us badly and Frye doesn't look to be turning it around to be completely honest.

5. Wtf happened to our LB play? Eich and Chambers really faded at the end and I wonder if we can't have Lil Animal essentially take over at the position. Much better recruiter, true Buckeye, and the results are wavering here. Not saying a change needs to happen right away, but I see it coming in the next couple of years.

6. Knowles improved the defense a lot the last couple of years, so I will give him credit on that. But we have to figure this Tcun shit out because their offense is not as good as we are making them look. I don't know what is missing, but I also don't get paid what our coaches do to figure it out. They need to figure it out.

7. Season is over and we will have not met a single goal that Day (and the program really) sets. Lost to Tcun. No B1G title or title appearance. No playoffs. No national title chance. So you can look at an 11-1 record, but the reality is that we went 0-4. That is three years in a row of 0-4 under Day and I'm in the camp of letting him go if you can get any of UFM, Freeman or (promoting) Hartline to take over. If not, get the feelers out there to top names now. @Jaxbuck and I have talked about Day turning into the next Cooper and I didn't want it to be, because I really like Day and think he is a great mind/human being. But this is really the last straw for me and I will take very little pleasure in any win next year that isn't against Tcun.

8. Bowl game talk. Don't really care what bowl we get, it doesn't matter whatsoever after going 0-4. Just get some emerging young guys playing time, allow those entering into the draft to sit out so they don't get hurt (Henderson, Harrison, Egbuka, M Jones, Eich, Chambers, Stover, Burke, Ransom, Proctor), and develop what the coaches believe to be our roster next year. From here on out, things change with a 12 team playoff since we would be in it under that format. But for this year, really not anything left to play for other than to get guys ready for next season. I will watch and cheer on the team as always, but it does no favors to anyone to play guys that are about to get their well-earned payday without the risk of injury.
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Eichenburg was playing one handed we shouldn't have had him out there imo
 
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I did find it odd that the tv crew just showed us scUM's celebration instead of showing the replay of the "interception." It's not his elbow, as tCun fans are saying in the comments because you can see the white stripe of the ball. Maybe add this replay decision to the ones from 2019 Clemson and the Peach Bowl? Edit: I dunno, feel free to disagree with my interpretation.
 
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Zem said:
I did find it odd that the tv crew just showed us scUM's celebration instead of showing the replay of the "interception." It's not his elbow, as tCun fans are saying in the comments because you can see the white stripe of the ball. Maybe add this replay decision to the ones from 2019 Clemson and the Peach Bowl?
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Christ that's an easy 6 with a clean pocket :(
 
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Zem said:
I did find it odd that the tv crew just showed us scUM's celebration instead of showing the replay of the "interception." It's not his elbow, as tCun fans are saying in the comments because you can see the white stripe of the ball. Maybe add this replay decision to the ones from 2019 Clemson and the Peach Bowl? Edit: I dunno, feel free to disagree with my interpretation.
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That is fucking infuriating
 
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I think this view, provided by Xbot, confirms it should have been ruled an incompletion. Pause it at 8 seconds, watch the ball go through his arms and hit the ground, deep breathes, happy thoughts. :wink: Before 9 seconds, you can see most of the ball has squirted out and he's trapping it.
 
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baremu527 said:
Only the Texas games were close and one USC game. We were boat raced by UF, LSU, and USC the following year. Again my main point if you read it again is that he lost every single one except for ND.
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This is revisionist history from someone who was likely a child during the Tressel era. You are showing your age by what you're leaving out.

The wins against Washington State (#10), Miami (#1), Washington (#17), Philip Rivers' NC State (#22), Kansas State (#8), Notre Dame (#5), and Texas (#2) were all big deals. People forget that 41-14 came as such a shock because Tressel seemed invincible in big games with preparation.

The paranoia that enveloped the OSU fanbase and, it must be said, the program itself, during the latter Tressel years came as a result of one game: the debacle in the desert. That debacle was itself caused by the tremendous success his teams had in big games until that point. The key players on the roster thought they could just show up and the coaching staff failed to provide the reality check the team needed.

You can divide the Tressel era into two, before that disaster and after. Everything about what came after was colored by memories of that game. The loss against LSU only hurt because of its proximity to the year before. OSU literally should not have been in that game; it took the craziest year of college football in all of our memories for that to happen. LSU was the better team at every position except running back and the team played as well as they could against a simply superior opponent.

There was then one blowout loss to USC, which increased the paranoia, and close losses to USC and Texas. Big game wins against Oregon (#7), Miami (#12), and Arkansas (#8) were clear signs of another turning point. After the Oregon win, you could feel the exhalation in the fanbase and in the WHAC. That was the first time 41-14 was really forgotten.

Two blowout losses (41-14 and USC), the first of which still stands as the biggest aberration game of my lifetime and the second caused by huge recruiting disparities between the two programs. I suspect your age lines up with that terrible, terrible game in Glendale because of your inaccurate recollections. It is a shame the younger fanbase takes for granted Tressel era.
 
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DontHateOState said:
This is revisionist history from someone who was likely a child during the Tressel era. You are showing your age by what you're leaving out.

The wins against Washington State (#10), Miami (#1), Washington (#17), Philip Rivers' NC State (#22), Kansas State (#8), Notre Dame (#5), and Texas (#2) were all big deals. People forget that 41-14 came as such a shock because Tressel seemed invincible in big games with preparation.

The paranoia that enveloped the OSU fanbase and, it must be said, the program itself, during the latter Tressel years came as a result of one game: the debacle in the desert. That debacle was itself caused by the tremendous success his teams had in big games until that point. The key players on the roster thought they could just show up and the coaching staff failed to provide the reality check the team needed.

You can divide the Tressel era into two, before that disaster and after. Everything about what came after was colored by memories of that game. The loss against LSU only hurt because of its proximity to the year before. OSU literally should not have been in that game; it took the craziest year of college football in all of our memories for that to happen. LSU was the better team at every position except running back and the team played as well as they could against a simply superior opponent.

There was then one blowout loss to USC, which increased the paranoia, and close losses to USC and Texas. Big game wins against Oregon (#7), Miami (#12), and Arkansas (#8) were clear signs of another turning point. After the Oregon win, you could feel the exhalation in the fanbase and in the WHAC. That was the first time 41-14 was really forgotten.

Two blowout losses (41-14 and USC), the first of which still stands as the biggest aberration game of my lifetime and the second caused by huge recruiting disparities between the two programs. I suspect your age lines up with that terrible, terrible game in Glendale because of your inaccurate recollections. It is a shame the younger fanbase takes for granted Tressel era.
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1. We had every right to be in the game against LSU
2. We weren't "boat raced" We outgained them in yardage, but we had 3 turnovers and lost by 2 scores.
 
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