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Game Thread THE GAME: #1 Ohio State 42, #2 Michigan 39 (11/18/06)

kochacola;649721; said:
this was posted on a PSu message board before the michigan game and from what i hear State students put up posters of this all around campus :)


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i might make this into a shirt and/or for a sign on gameday for mich. week

DO IT...and I will take a 2xl
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Greater passion (albeit controlled) and fewer mistakes throughout 60 minutes of football than the other guy = winner. JT eats, sleeps, and breathes intense passion filled mistake free football, and so does his team - starting with a man named Troy. Believe it.
 
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You know the truth is...if the scenerio was the same, but this was two random teams...that this would be the biggest regular season game in a decade. You factor in that it's not just two rivals...but the biggest rivals in college football, and maybe all of sports...and it can't get bigger. There CAN NOT be a bigger game in college football than a 1 vs 2 Ohio State/Michigan game. This may not just be the biggest college football game to ever be played, it may just be the biggest football game to be played period. The super bowl doesn't get this much hype.

I've said this before...but i'll rehash. I spend each of 729 days thinking about the next time Michigan comes to The Shoe. It's the one day out of every two years where I can actually feel magic in the air. Things smell different, look different, sound different, feel different. It is the best day in the world, and it only happens a handful of times in ones lifetime. Well...every one of those 729 days I think...what if they were both undefeated...wouldn't that be something. It's never happened in my lifetime, it's something I really want to see. And, even more, what if Ohio State was #1 and Michigan was #2. I wouldn't want it the other way...I want Ohio State on top, and to stay on top. Well we are 9 days away from this dream becoming a reality. I keep pinching myself wondering when I am going to wake up. Not only are Ohio State and Michigan 1/2...but there is nobody else close.

It used to be the Big 2 and the Little 8. Well for the first time in college football history, it's the Big 2 and the Little 117. This is how I want college football to be. Ohio State and Michigan on top...so far ahead of everybody else that many are crying that the loser should stay #2.

Ohio State and Michigan are by far the best...in 16 days we get to find out who is the best of the best. If you are lucky enough to have a ticket to this game, then tresure it. Spend each day leading up to this game reminding yourself how lucky you are to have that ticket...to have a chance to witness first hand the greatest thing to ever happen to college football in all it's history. When you walk though those gates and into Ohio Stadium, take a deep breathe, and soak it all in. You won't just be walking into a football stadium, you'll be walking into history. A hero will be made...a legend will be born. You will be witness to something that your grandchildren will tell their grandchilden about in the generations to come. This is one game that will live on long after all of us do.

So if you are lucky to be there, then don't take it for granted...please. There will be millions and millions of people watching on TV, wishing they were in your shoes.

If you have never screamed before at a football game, this is the game to do it at.

If you usually wait for somebody else to start an "OH" cheer...this is the game to start one.

If you usually sit during football games, this is the game to stand up.

If you usually look at other people acting crazy and going insane, thinking they are nuts...well then THIS IS THE ONE GAME FOR YOU TO LET GO AND GO NUTS!

Deafening should end up being an understatement for how loud Ohio Stadium will end up being on November 18th. This is the biggest football game in college football history, anybody who tries to tell you anything else is WRONG. It therefore deserves to be the loudest game in college football history. Whether you are 9 or 99...you've never been a part of this before and never will again. Enjoy it and go nuts...and if you have a heart attack, what better way and place to die, then in Ohio Stadium as the #1 Buckeyes beat the #2 Wolverines. Heaven will probably seem pale in comparison.
 
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Arrington hearing adjourned

Wideout's trial date could be set at next hearing

By Nate Sandals
11/2/06
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Michigan wide receiver Adrian Arrington shows up to the 14A-2 District Court in Ypsilani at 9 a.m. this morning for a pre-trial hearing on domestic violence charges. (STEVEN TAI/Daily)

YPSILANTI - Michigan wide receiver Adrian Arrington will have to wait two more weeks to find out if domestic violence charges brought against him will go to trial.

His next court date looms just three days before Michigan's match-up with number one ranked Ohio State University.

The pretrial hearing yesterday morning was adjourned and postponed until Nov. 15 to allow time for the defense and prosecution to gather more information on the case.

The charges stem from an Oct. 13 incident in which Arrington allegedly injured his girlfriend during a dispute over whether or not she would drive him home. According to the police report, Arrington, who had allegedly been drinking in an Ypsilanti bar, took her car and drove himself home against his girlfriend's wishes.

Arrington, dressed in a pink button-down shirt and black pinstriped pants, arrived at the Washtenaw County 14A-2 District Court at 9 a.m., 30 minutes after his hearing was scheduled to begin. He arrived with his girlfriend and attorney Christopher Easthope. Judge Kirk W. Tabbey presided over the hearing with a robotic efficiency.

Following a conference at the bench between Easthope and the prosecutor, Tabbey agreed to an adjournment until Nov. 15, when a trial date could be set.

Such adjournments are common, Easthope said after the hearing.

Michigan is scheduled to face Ohio State in what will likely be a No. 1 vs. No. 2 matchup three days after Arrington's next court appearance.

Easthope, who is also an Ann Arbor City Council member, said there was no effort made to schedule the next hearing for after the football season.

Although the charges were brought on behalf of Arrington's girlfriend, an Eastern Michigan University student, Easthope stressed that she did not intend for the incident to become a domestic violence dispute.

"She did not lodge a complaint about assault," Easthope said. "She just wanted the police to assist her in finding her car."

In domestic violence cases, prosecutors can file charges even if the victim doesn't want to.Tabbey and the prosecutor agreed to Easthope's request to allow Arrington to return home to Iowa for the Thanksgiving holiday. Arrangements have also been made to permit Arrington to travel with the football team.

The Cedar Rapids native was twice chastised during the short hearing. A bailiff sternly demanded Arrington take his hands out of his pockets at the hearing's outset. Moments later, an attorney discreetly took Arrington's cell phone from him and handed it to his girlfriend to be turned off outside of the courtroom. Cell phones and pagers are not permitted to be on in the courtroom.

After the hearing, Arrington, his girlfriend and Easthope met briefly in the courthouse's parking lot. Arrington left in the passenger seat of his girlfriend's red Dodge Durango, the same vehicle mentioned in the police report.

Arrington has already faced punishment from Michigan football coach Lloyd Carr. Carr sat the wide receiver for the first five offensive plays of Saturday's game against Northwestern. The coach has not ruled out further disciplinary action relating to the matter.

Arrington has 26 catches for 371 yards and five touchdowns on the season. He has been given a larger role since Mario Mannigham's injury in early October.
 
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Viewpoint: The Big House's capitalist roots

By John Bacon
11/2/06

At the dedication game of Michigan's new 84,401-seat stadium in 1927, the Wolverines sent new rival Ohio State home with a 21-0 thumping. In that informal era, it was perfectly natural for athletic director Fielding Yost to walk back to campus with the game's star, Bennie Oosterbaan.

"Mr. Yost was feeling pretty good," Oosterbaan said. "We'd won, and the stadium was completely filled. He turned to me and said, 'Bennie, do you know what the best thing about that new stadium is? Eighty-five thousand people paid five dollars apiece for their seats - and Bennie, they had to leave the seats there!'"

Like most Ann Arborites, I've been following the debate over the proposed skyboxes very closely. While I'm impressed by the passion the opponents have for Michigan tradition, I can't help but conclude they're pining for a past that never was. If the best cure for nostalgia is a dose of historical facts, it's time for a healthy shot.

While no one can be certain what Yost would think of the skyboxes, the record suggests he would approve - for the very reasons he pushed to build the Big House in the first place. As Michigan's athletic director from 1921 to 1941, Yost worked tirelessly to elevate the profile of Michigan athletics - and, along with it, his own. When someone asked famed sportswriter Ring Lardner if he ever talked to Yost, Lardner replied, "No, my mother taught me never to interrupt."

Given Yost's massive ego, it's no surprise he was obsessed with massive stadiums. It galled him that Ohio State, Illinois and other rivals built theirs before Michigan got around to it. After years of lobbying, Yost finally overcame the objections of the faculty, the students, The Michigan Daily and the Board of Regents - which twice vetoed the plan before passing it - to build his Big House.

Michigan Stadium originally boasted a permanent capacity of 72,000, including hundreds of pricier box seats, plus 12,401 temporary bleachers - all this to serve a city of just 35,000 people. It's hard to argue Yost was anything but a dyed-in-the-wool capitalist who fully intended to maximize the profitability of his football team.

Yost also installed footings for a balcony of some 70,000 seats - which strikes me as a pretty clear invitation to future generations that Michigan Stadium was not to be regarded as a sacred mausoleum, but an organic building designed to meet the changing needs of the Athletic Department and Michigan's fans. As proof, Michigan Stadium has undergone 21 major renovations, expansions and improvements, starting in the building's second year, when Yost added 13,753 permanent seats.

The Big House helped pay for Yost Field House, the baseball stadium, and - for all students - the golf course, the Intramural Sports Building and Waterman Gymnasium, arguably the best women's facility of its time.

Fielding Yost invented the linebacker, the no-huddle offense and the quick kick. But his most important innovation, by far, was the financially self-sufficient athletic department. It is that tradition, more than any other, which the University should endeavor to protect today.

By 2010, the only Big Ten schools without skyboxes will be Indiana and Northwestern - hardly Michigan's peers. Michigan's proposed skyboxes will require not a dime from the University's general fund nor its students, which is how most schools pay for sports. The skyboxes will help fund 25 varsity teams - 13 of them women's, and all but three of which lose money every year.

The skyboxes will also keep ticket prices down for the average fan. In the early '70s, my parents' tickets cost $120 per season. Those exact same seats now cost $1,266, an increase of more than 1,000 percent. The skyboxes will serve as a progressive tax on the wealthiest Michigan boosters, effectively subsidizing both non-revenue sports and tickets for the average fan - the very tradition Yost established in 1927.

The Athletic Department needs more money to fund its teams, and if I have to choose between extracting more from starving students or corporate big shots, I'll take the rich guys, every time.

And the best part is, when the game is over, they'll have to leave the skyboxes there.
 
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Michigan, Ohio State keep it mum as game approaches
Michael Rosenberg

Yes, Ohio State is No. 1 in the country and Michigan is No. 2, and both are undefeated, and neither has really come close to losing, and they are basically two bullet trains speeding toward each other on one track, and this just might be the biggest, most anticipated, most exciting game in the history of the best rivalry in sports.
But nobody around here is thinking about that.
Really.
Swear."I've really been impressed watching Illinois' development," said Ohio State coach Jim Tressel, referring to his opponent this week. "Coach Zook and his staff have done an excellent job."
So far, Illinois has developed its way to a 2-7 record. Two weeks ago, Illinois couldn't even beat Ohio University, let alone Ohio State. And Ron Zook has not done an excellent job since the day he cleaned out his desk at Florida. Man, he didn't leave a single page of the playbook in that desk. It is possible that he didn't have a playbook.
Nonetheless, the Buckeyes are extremely concerned about Illinois. They haven't given much thought to That School Up North, even though Tressel has been talking up the rivalry since the day he took the job, when he promised a basketball arena full of OSU fans that they would be proud of the Buckeyes "in 310 days in Ann Arbor, Michigan," and that wasn't just a good line, because Tressel always knows exactly how many days are left until his team plays Michigan, so he surely knows The Game is in 17 days. He just isn't thinking about it.
And the Wolverines aren't thinking about it, either. Nothing against Ohio State, but first Michigan has some very urgent business against another storied rival: Ball State.
True, Michigan has never actually faced Ball State before. But who needs history for a rivalry? What if Ball State accidentally leaves a water jug in Ann Arbor, and the Wolverines dare the Cardinals to come back and win it, like Minnesota did to Michigan back in 1903? Have you considered that possibility?
And if you think the Cardinals are pushovers, just because they are 3-6 and lost to Division I-AA North Dakota State, then you are obviously a know-nothing fan who has not paid nearly enough attention to Ball State's punter.
"I just watched their punter (Chris Miller) twice this morning," Michigan coach Lloyd Carr warned Monday, "where he's punting from his own 30-yard line and kicks the ball into the end zone for touchbacks. He's averaging 45 yards a kick. He's probably as fine a punter as we've seen this year, and we've seen some good ones."
If Carr can somehow tear himself away from the horrifying Halloween movie known as the "Ball State punting film," he might notice that Ohio State and Michigan dominate the Bowl Championship Series rankings.
Ohio State has a .9864 BCS average and U-M has a .9697 average. Do you know what those numbers mean? Me neither. But West Virginia is third at .7862. The gap between No. 2 Michigan and No. 3 West Virginia is much bigger than the gap between West Virginia and No. 11 Tennessee.
The gap is so big that a close OSU-Michigan game might set up a rematch for a national championship.
But nobody is worried about that.
Ohio State is worried about the indomitable Zook.
Michigan is worried about getting star receiver Mario Manningham back in the lineup. The Wolverines have averaged 30 points with Manningham and 18 without him. Naturally, they would really like to have Manningham back for the big game.
Against Ball State, of course.
 
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With or without Manningham, I am not that worried about scUM's offense all that much. They'll lock Jenkins up on him and play ten on ten. I still don't think Henne is that good and our run D may give up 100 or so to Hart, but I don't think that will be enough to beat us.

Their run D is great, but I think we're going to mix the playcalling up so much, it will be quite difficult to stop us. I also see Troy having the game of his life. Although not the championship game, this will be his magnus opus to put the exclamation point on his career as a Buck. I expect him to be on point with his throws and to run a LOT more than he has all season (IF the holes are there). In the past he has shredded the weasels through the air and on the ground and I have no problem with that pattern continuing.

The most exciting part about this game is that I think our offense is so good, that we still haven't really seen half of what they can do. We have been conservative for the most part all season and managed to put up something like an average of 35 points a game. This should be the game where the staff pulls out all the stops and never lets off the gas pedal (like we have 7 of our 9 wins in the 3rd qtr.).

Lastly, I expect to see quite a bit of C. Wells late in the game as well. I could be very wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised to see JT and co. bringing him in late (3rd/4th qtrs) for fresh legs and to beat on the scUM starting D a little more. Regardless, Pittman will be the man as he has been all season and I'm SURE the staff is very happy with his ability to hang on to the ball especially going into a game of this magnitude. C. Wells will have to stay fumble free these next two games if he wants to get his carries against scUM.

At the end of the day, I say Troy and turnovers finish this one off. I like us big...by at least 2 TD's.
 
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JonathanXC;650158; said:
If you have never screamed before at a football game, this is the game to do it at.

If you usually wait for somebody else to start an "OH" cheer...this is the game to start one.

If you usually sit during football games, this is the game to stand up.

If you usually look at other people acting crazy and going insane, thinking they are nuts...well then THIS IS THE ONE GAME FOR YOU TO LET GO AND GO NUTS!

I would add something that you posted in another thread. But I'm going to use my own words: Schlingle mcfrompy troddfler quomp!

Or, in english: If you aren't the type of fan to act like this at a game, then, please, for the good of the team, sell your ticket, or give your ticket to someone who WILL act like this. I'm not suggesting that we all get drunk and become Penn State fans, but that we all need to be loud, and crazy and insane and nuts.

Before the 2002 season, I gave up a chance to go to the Michigan game, for the chance to go to the 2004 and 2006 Michigan games. In 2002, I was kicking myself for that one, thinking that there was never a bigger game than that one. But this 2006 game, in my opinion, makes the 2002 game look like a boring roller coaster at Wyandot Lake standing next to the Millenium Force.

Anyone know how early I need to show up to appear on GameDay?
 
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Zurp;650300; said:
Anyone know how early I need to show up to appear on GameDay?

For the Texas game last year, the show started at 10:00 AM, and they didn't open the gates to the staging area until 7:00 or 8:00. The line was already forming at 6:00 AM.

So for Nov. 18th...get a tent and some sleeping bags.
 
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Looking ahead: OSU will be favored over Michigan
By Jeff Mason
Thu, Nov 2, 2006


Some media outlets have already spent weeks discussing what?s going to go down on Nov. 18, though it?s tougher to look ahead in the sports gambling world than it is in the regular sports world ? for obvious reasons.
But now that just two games remain for both the Ohio State Buckeyes and Michigan Wolverines, it?s time to throw our hat in the ring, because, when you think about it, they?re probably looking ahead at this point, too.
Ohio State hasn?t faced a losable game since its Sept. 30 trip to Iowa. Michigan hasn?t since its Oct. 14 game at Penn State. The hype was building even before that. Now, with the teams No. 1 and 2 respectively in every imaginable poll, it?s bordering on insane.
Neither team could ask for an easier final two games. Ohio State travels to face a 2-7 Illinois team this week as a 25 ?-point road favorite and then plays the 2-7 Northwestern Wildcats in Evanston.
Michigan hosts the 3-6 Ball State Cardinals this week as a 34-point favorite, and then travels to play the 5-4 Indiana Hoosiers. When the dust finally clears, we?ll be left with what?s essentially become the BCS Championship semifinal ? the much awaited showdown at the Horseshoe.
And if everything goes as planned for the next two weeks, Ohio State could be favored by a touchdown or more.
?My first thought would be Ohio State -8 or -8 ?,? says professional oddsmaker Keith Glantz. ?But that would probably be a ?take? with the wise guys so maybe OSU -7 ? would be better. Make that -7 if wide receiver (Mario) Manningham returns 100 percent for the game.?
Manningham, who has missed the last three weeks after undergoing knee surgery, began practicing this week and could be back as early as Saturday against the Cardinals according to Michigan head coach Lloyd Carr. The sophomore had 24 catches for 527 yards and nine touchdowns in the first six games of the season.
?To me a 7 or 7 ? looks high, but it is consistent with what we have seen all season ? Michigan has generated more profits for us than any other Division I team, and the betting markets still do not realize how good they are,? says Covers Expert David Malinsky. ?A ?true? line based on the abilities of the teams, and not the public perceptions, would be around -4 or -4 ?. I expect to see it in the -6 range at kickoff.?
The importance of their game two weeks from now also means both teams will undoubtedly be looking ahead. They are favored by more than eight touchdowns combined this week, and will surely face similar lines next week. They?ll prepare as much as they need to prepare to win convincingly, but covering the spread won?t be on either team?s agenda.
?Unlike some of these other teams that are trying to impress the BCS voters, Ohio State and Michigan know that there task is simple ? simply win the next three games, and you play for the trophy, regardless of the final margin on the scoreboards,? says Malinsky.
Whoever emerges as the winner on Nov. 18 will also be the runaway favorite to win the national championship. Michigan and Ohio State have separated themselves from the pack not only in the polls, but also in the eyes of oddsmakers, with the Buckeyes leading the way as a +135 favorite to win it all and the Wolverines second at +390. ?If Ohio State wins, the Buckeyes are certainly the favorites to be the national champions, and would likely be at least -6 in any bowl matchup,? says Malinsky. ?If Michigan is the winner, there is a very real chance that we might see a rematch between the same teams (in the national championship game).?
 
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