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The Big Ten Is Irrelevant - Again

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ALL BCS bowl games, NC games, and Texas Death Match games are played in the South. (Yes, I consider Phoenix and LA to be South.)

The NCAA has not sanctioned for or against over-signing, nor have they made probation violations and investigations consistent.

Everyone seems to have figured out a work around on the ACT/GPA minimum requirement.

The NCAA and FBS bowl selection committees have said nothing about the obvious conflict of interest between ESPN and NBC and the schools they are aligned with.

Delaney and the Big Ten ADs have apparently done nothing to change this.
 
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But we kickin' some ass in research dollars. In 2011 the Big Ten placed 13 of 14 schools in the top 60 public universities for research. Michigan 1, Minnie 8, Ohio State 11, Wisconsin 12, Purdue 13, Michigan State14, Penn State 19, Illinois 21, Iowa 23, Indiana 28, Rutgers 38, Maryland 61 - Northwestern placed 9th overall when private AND public schools were listed.
Nebraska couldn't be found so they better start kickin' some ass in football.

As a conference, only the PAC 14 compares. Texas does very well - in the top 10. But in the SEC only two public schools are mentioned: Florida at 47 and Kentucky at 68 (UK has some of the best research facilities and faculty in two areas: Horses and Tobacco) and of course Vandy does well as a private school. The ACC is led by UNC - Duke and NCSU, helped greatly by the research triangle bank rolled by the state some 30 years ago - but now threatened by a tea party guv who wants to cut back on upper ed. Pitt is very strong and FSU shows up in the top 50. UVA and Va Tech are mentioned - UVA perhaps limited by its emphasis as a top liberal arts program as opposed to research.

http://mup.asu.edu/research2012.pdf

Similar results would be found if we went into comparisons of undergrad and grad programs, if we looked at AVG student SAT scores, if we looked at faculty rankings. In terms of what the schools add to the economic strength and education levels of their respective regions we have a tremendous asset in Big Ten schools.
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THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN' ABOUT!

Screw football. Set up some mf'in Academic Bowls, yo. Mathletes not athletes!

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Which was also the final game before the BTN launched. Now you can question why they would hype up OSU/UM that much with an impending network squabble. Then again they made kazillions on the eyeballs watching that debate (especially the angry ones from the SEC, nothing gets ratings like anger), even more on the first matchup and would have exploded the nielsen boxes across america if the rematch took place for all the marbles.

Conversely, maybe they still thought Disney's dare to Delaney would work out well for them.

OSU & the B1G deserve plenty of ridicule. So have others during that span, but there are billions standing in the way of that, and the consequences of that bias are significant.
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So, was the BTN a bad decision? They basically cut off a hand that feeds them- and controls the narrative in this moronic country. I'm far from sticking with the status quo and the WWL has been pretty much dead to me for a long time, besides live sporting events, since they turned into E!SPN in the early 2000's I have no issue, in theory, with severing ties with that company...but it's an interesting question if we are going to sit here and complain about their influence as we sit on the outside. This conference was the one that cut that off.

Now, the idea was to have a hand that fed itself...which from everything I've read (source: @BUCKYLE), it seems to be working rather well as each school is raking in loads of cash. So my follow-up is, what the heck is going on that? What was the point of this money-making machine if we weren't going to employ it's powers?
 
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Btw, thought I had another point but forgot it. I'm just here for discussion.

My current viewpoint is pretty much "it is what it is." Yeah, the south is better at football. OK. Cool. Yeah, it's annoying, but does it really matter? Sports in general have been a major letdown for me lately. Between pretty much every team/ideology I despise winning (Kentucky, FSU, Alabama, Heat, Ravens...) and all the other BS that goes on in each league- rule changes, commercialism, corruption-...I've pretty much resigned myself to worrying about whether Ohio State wins and loses. Same for my other favorite teams too, but the Buckeyes are my treasure. Getting my heart rate up for anything else just isn't a desire anymore.

So, yeah, pretty much I have become a sports pothead. Or something. Whatever.
 
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Another for instance: John Calipari takes two schools into probationville, gets hired at UK - a school which obviously doesn't care about the who, what, where, why and how of the probabtions - and promptly turns the program into One and Done U. Now let's take this a step further- he then takes his TEAM to the Bahamas in AUGUST for a series of games. This is clearly outside the acknowledged zone of when practice as a team can begin, much less be ready to play together in a fairly competitive mode.

And the ESPN heads say "Calipari is taking UK's program into new territory, nothing wrong with that."

It is the culture around the SEC teams that is different from Big Ten schools. It is the lack of power at the academic/administrative end of the member schools and that begins with how the two conferences were formed and still operate.
 
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Lou Holtz was great at corrupting programs and moving on without any impact too him. Nothing really new here in that regard with what Calipari is doing. Bottom line some schools are willing to look the other way...ahem Bobby Petrino
 
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The ncaa is officially toothless at this point, and Calipari knows he can basically do whatever the hell he wants. And, of course, e!spn bobble-heads are lining up to praise him. This is the age we live in.
 
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@cincibuck is always good with the numbers and stats relative to economics and academics related to the Universities, which plays into the new diatribe that Cowturd was promoting on $Ec$PiN today. I don't usually listen much to him, but I had the radio on in the car and he was playing up some new article from someone at the Detroit Free Press wrote correlating the demise of the BIG with the economic demise of the Midwest. Cowturd said that is what they have been saying there for 10 years and people shouldn't be angry just realize it. He said even Urban Meyer would find that it will be difficult to field a team that is competitive out of the BIG for this reason. I turned it off after that. I don't know how three top five recruiting classes in a row keeps us from competing?????
 
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cincibuck said:
Another for instance: John Calipari takes two schools into probationville, gets hired at UK - a school which obviously doesn't care about the who, what, where, why and how of the probabtions - and promptly turns the program into One and Done U. Now let's take this a step further- he then takes his TEAM to the Bahamas in AUGUST for a series of games. This is clearly outside the acknowledged zone of when practice as a team can begin, much less be ready to play together in a fairly competitive mode.

And the ESPN heads say "Calipari is taking UK's program into new territory, nothing wrong with that."

It is the culture around the SEC teams that is different from Big Ten schools. It is the lack of power at the academic/administrative end of the member schools and that begins with how the two conferences were formed and still operate.
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You know that Thad took his TEAM to the Bahamas in AUGUST as well, right?
 
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many of you touched on it already.
the B1G needs a conference wide push to the top.

the SEC rise sorta started with LSU hiring Saban. UF and Tenn were already riding high and LSU wanted some too. So they went out and spent big $ to get there. the rest of the conference slowly followed suit.

Florida replaced spurrier with Meyer. USCe went out and got Spurrier, Bama lured Nick back to college, Auburn bought Cam, etc.

just gotta make sure you make the right hire and not just a big $ failure. Ole Piss learned that with Houston Nutt and Tenn with Kiffin.

OSU and PSU both made really good hires.
Michigan did not. twice.

Nebraska tried with Pelini, but he's struggling for all the reasons LSU fans used to convince themselves he wasn't leaving for an HC gig.
He doesn't like recruiting, despises the media, and generally hates pretty much every facet of being a HC.
 
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