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The Big Ten Is Irrelevant - Again

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This is a long-term solution, but I really believe the BTN should invest in inner-city high school football. Build some indoor arenas, create youth programs, etc. That is the only way I see. The weather isnt changing. The demographics arent changing. You need to invest in culture change where we need it the most. I would bet NOLA produces more football players than urban Cleveland....and that is the situation. We have to build a wall and develop what is inside that wall at a faster rate.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
He doesn't like recruiting, despises the media, and generally hates pretty much every facet of being a HC.
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Sounds like someone else I know.

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There is absolutely no shame whatsoever in just being a damn fine coordinator.
 
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I like your idea Bucky and investment by the BIG in the region with youth sports, that is a huge win all around. I am not a fan of indoor stadiums personally and would rather see the BiG promote games in outdoor stadiums like Chicago, Cleveland, Cinci, etc. build a BIG brand of this is real football in the mud, the rain, the snow and of course georgeous fall days.
 
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Bucky32 said:
This is a long-term solution, but I really believe the BTN should invest in inner-city high school football. Build some indoor arenas, create youth programs, etc. That is the only way I see. The weather isnt changing. The demographics arent changing. You need to invest in culture change where we need it the most. I would bet NOLA produces more football players than urban Cleveland....and that is the situation. We have to build a wall and develop what is inside that wall at a faster rate.
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To be politically incorrect about it, the South has large rural and small town A-A populations that don't exist to anywhere near the same degree as the Big Ten region. Here, A-A populations are concentrated in cities to a much higher degree, and in cities basketball is always going to win out over football for the best talent. If half the A-A talent in this region that was being funneled into basketball at an early age was instead focusing on football, you'd see a lot of the problem solved. Chicago is the extreme example, but it's mirrored to varying degrees throughout the Great Lakes.
 
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Poor underprivileged kids in the South come largely from small towns and small cities where HS football is a big deal and teams are funded (unlike the educational system in the schools they represent). Poor underprivileged kids in the North come largely from Rust Belt cities where schools don't have enough money to fund big-time HS football and as a result urban public school football has lower participation by young underprivileged kids. (Maybe. I haven't actually done any research on this but it seems reasonable.)

I guess I'm pretty much agreeing with ORD here. :lol:
 
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can't really say about the rest of the South, but in Louisiana, most of the AA population is in the cities (Nola & Baton Rouge) or their suburbs.

get out of those cities and depending which direction you're going you either get true "Cajun" type heritage (think Troy from Swamp People), rednecks (think of Duck Dynasty) or coonasses (me). and yes there is a difference between Cajuns and coonasses.

that's a really simplified generalization, but will give you an idea of the demographics of this state.
culture wise, it's like 4 completely different groups whose only common trait is the border of the state.
 
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MaxBuck said:
Poor underprivileged kids in the South come largely from small towns and small cities where HS football is a big deal and teams are funded (unlike the educational system in the schools they represent). Poor underprivileged kids in the North come largely from Rust Belt cities where schools don't have enough money to fund big-time HS football and as a result urban public school football has lower participation by young underprivileged kids. (Maybe. I haven't actually done any research on this but it seems reasonable.)

I guess I'm pretty much agreeing with ORD here. :lol:
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I'd be interested to compare the rates that the Chicago Public League puts kids into P5 conference basketball programs vs. P5 football programs.
 
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Nutriaitch said:
Nebraska tried with Pelini, but he's struggling for all the reasons LSU fans used to convince themselves he wasn't leaving for an HC gig.
He doesn't like recruiting, despises the media, and generally hates pretty much every facet of being a HC.
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Nebraska has their next HC at Oregon if they are smart enough to get rid of Pelini and pony up the money for Frost. That would be a great start for them. PSU will come back now that they can fully recruit and have a head coach with a pulse for the first time since the 90s.

I am sure Urban will pull OSU out of its largely negative big-game OOC slide that started in Jan 07. The puzzler is scUM.

This is a wasted year for the B1G to be sure, but not all is lost ... yet.
 
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O'Brien was a decent coach, and probably could've made it pretty well at Penn State not dealing with the sanctions. I think he related to the kids and I think he recruited well. Saying that, I think he did the right thing and got the fuck out of that shit hole.
 
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buxfan4life said:
O'Brien was a decent coach, and probably could've made it pretty well at Penn State not dealing with the sanctions. I think he related to the kids and I think he recruited well. Saying that, I think he did the right thing and got the fuck out of that [Mark May] hole.
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I think he saw how crazy those PSU cult people are, and he got out. He seems ok, I wish him well.
 
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Those swamp a$$ kids from the south grow up with footballs in their hands. Like others mentioned, the city kids get good at hoops, so there's less football talent in the urban areas. We're getting our share of southern kids, so it doesn't matter. The Big 10 will be back soon.
 
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