Tennessee's next Head Football Coach

[TJnTN]

Starting to hear things around the interwebs that it will be Charlie Strong and we may hear as soon as Wednesday. We shall see.

 

[muffler dragon]

The guy apparently has one color he likes.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/job_search_update_mike_gundy_r.html

Job search update: Mike Gundy reportedly interviews with Tennessee

The hot name in the Tennessee coaching search right now? Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy.
Volquest.com reported that Tennessee athletic director Dave Hart and other UT representatives interviewed Gundy on Sunday at Gundy's home in Stillwater. Gundy, who played at Oklahoma State and has led the Cowboys to a 66-35 record over eight years, has declined to talk about any job opening.
The Tulsa World cited an unnamed source on Sunday as saying Gundy could be in talks with both Tennessee and Arkansas.
It may seem odd to think Gundy would leave his alma mater, where he earns $3.75 million and narrowly missed a shot at the BCS championship game a year ago. The World cited a tweet from OSU radio sideline reporter Robert Allen, who believes Gundy may be "looking for program control most in his position have and he should."
The Oklahoman's Gina Mizell wrote that Gundy's relationship with OSU athletic director Mike Holder "is not what it once was" after lengthy contract negotiations last year and a difference in philosophy over scheduling.

 

[Nutriaitch]

The guy apparently has one color he likes.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/12/job_search_update_mike_gundy_r.html

that and getting snubbed last year probably rubbed him the wrong way.
no way does OU get left ou in the same situation last season, but OSU did and will again given the chance.

depending on the circumstances, odd of the media snubbing an SEC school are really slim.

so in a way, I don't blame him if he bolts.

 

[Buckeye Maniac]

that and getting snubbed last year probably rubbed him the wrong way.
no way does OU get left ou in the same situation last season, but OSU did and will again given the chance.

depending on the circumstances, odd of the media snubbing an SEC school are really slim.

so in a way, I don't blame him if he bolts.

Didn't he go to Oklahoma State, though? IMO there is never a good reason to leave your alma mater if it's a major school. Especially to go to a job that's probably a step down.

Just look at RichRod.

 

[Nutriaitch]

Didn't he go to Oklahoma State, though? IMO there is never a good reason to leave your alma mater if it's a major school. Especially to go to a job that's probably a step down.

Just look at RichRod.

oh i don't think he should go.
i just can see the thought process if he does go.


at the moment, I would probably avoid all current SEC openings.

Tennessee and Auburn are both hot messes right now with boosters being more in the way than helping.

Auburn needs an entire culture change out there.
They think they just "belong" with the big boys and will just magically reappear in the top half of the standings.
They need an asshole to come in and demand changes and make them adjust their thinking.

Tennessee will never be happy with a coach.
They are where LSU was in the 80's and 90s and Bama in late 90s early 2000s.
they replaced their longtime successful coach. and the replacements haven been close to what the old guy was, so they're in perpetual fire the coach mode.


Kentucky doesn't give a shit about football. More people show up to watch basketball practice than football games.


and then you have Arky. a team that desperately wants to be cpart of the "in crowd", but can't ever do it.
they're in a state that has some talent, but the number of kids just isn't there. so you have to go into surrounding states to get your players.
problem is all of the surrounding states with talent have better football teams and better tradition than the piggies.
so you in your own division you have to Beat Bama, LSU, and now A&M every year with inferior talent. can it be done? sure, any given Saturday.
can it be done consistently enough to earn a seat that the big table. um signs point to "no"

 

[Bucky32]

oh i don't think he should go.
i just can see the thought process if he does go.


at the moment, I would probably avoid all current SEC openings.

Tennessee and Auburn are both hot messes right now with boosters being more in the way than helping.

Auburn needs an entire culture change out there.
They think they just "belong" with the big boys and will just magically reappear in the top half of the standings.
They need an asshole to come in and demand changes and make them adjust their thinking.

Tennessee will never be happy with a coach.
They are where LSU was in the 80's and 90s and Bama in late 90s early 2000s.
they replaced their longtime successful coach. and the replacements haven been close to what the old guy was, so they're in perpetual fire the coach mode.


Kentucky doesn't give a [Mark May] about football. More people show up to watch basketball practice than football games.


and then you have Arky. a team that desperately wants to be cpart of the "in crowd", but can't ever do it.
they're in a state that has some talent, but the number of kids just isn't there. so you have to go into surrounding states to get your players.
problem is all of the surrounding states with talent have better football teams and better tradition than the piggies.
so you in your own division you have to Beat Bama, LSU, and now A&M every year with inferior talent. can it be done? sure, any given Saturday.
can it be done consistently enough to earn a seat that the big table. um signs point to "no"

So they Mason'd themselves.

 

[Woody1968]

So they Mason'd themselves.

Mason never even sniffed a MNC, let alone won one.

 

[Mike80]

Mason never even sniffed a MNC, let alone won one.

Tennessee and Minnesota are completely different programs.

 

[Woody1968]

Tennessee and Minnesota are completely different programs.

This is why I don't think the comparison is accurate. I agree that both programs peaked under Mason and Fulmer, but Tennessee was already declining for by the time Fulmer got the sack. Mason was still at about the same level at Minnesota.

 

[Mike80]

This is why I don't think the comparison is accurate. I agree that both programs peaked under Mason and Fulmer, but Tennessee was already declining for by the time Fulmer got the sack. Mason was still at about the same level at Minnesota.

So? Mason was and is the best thing that happened to Minny since the early 60s. they haven't recovered, much like Tennecheat.

Tennessee is a much different program than Minny is....until the rise of the SEC West, it was always them or Florida in the NC hunt in the 90s.

 

[alexhortdog95]

Phil Fulmer told Eddie George this morning on Sirius that he'd be more than willing to come back. And would hire his old staff back too.

 

[Woody1968]

So? Mason was and is the best thing that happened to Minny since the early 60s. they haven't recovered, much like Tennecheat.

Tennessee is a much different program than Minny is....until the rise of the SEC West, it was always them or Florida in the NC hunt in the 90s.

Yes, but after 1998, Tennessee declined sharply, even while Fulmer was still the coach. Minny was on a plateau with Mason, and their decline started when Brewster was hired.

Edit, Tennessee did have a few decent seasons in the early 2000s, but overall I would say there was a dropoff in quality.

 

[pnuts34]

Didn't he go to Oklahoma State, though? IMO there is never a good reason to leave your alma mater if it's a major school. Especially to go to a job that's probably a step down.

Just look at RichRod.

Imo, ok st isn't near elite. They had a few good years, but last year was the best season they've had in years and they still didn't get into the NC. If UT had the same record with Gundy and won the sec, without a doubt they'd be in the NC. Ok st doesn't get voter or computer love, just like voters of bowl games really didn't want to see ksu in the NC this year, and also to a lesser extent, Oregon. Bcs bowl sponsors love them some sec football, no matter how mediocre it was this year. Gundy should know that even if he goes undefeated, a 1 loss sec school will always be rated over ok st. That's the sad truth. The bcs is almost rigged for few teams outside of the sec to win it all: Florida st, osu, usc, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, notre dame, scUM and Penn st. If you're not one of these teams, your chances of getting to the NC are greatly diminished... until the playoff is installed

 

[Abenaki]

Imo, ok st isn't near elite. They had a few good years, but last year was the best season they've had in years and they still didn't get into the NC. If UT had the same record with Gundy and won the sec, without a doubt they'd be in the NC. Ok st doesn't get voter or computer love, just like voters of bowl games really didn't want to see ksu in the NC this year, and also to a lesser extent, Oregon. Bcs bowl sponsors love them some sec football, no matter how mediocre it was this year. Gundy should know that even if he goes undefeated, a 1 loss sec school will always be rated over ok st. That's the sad truth. The bcs is almost rigged for few teams outside of the sec to win it all: Florida st, osu, usc, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas, notre dame, scUM and Penn st. If you're not one of these teams, your chances of getting to the NC are greatly diminished... until the playoff is installed

Not true. If he'd been undefeated last year they would have been in. They almost got in anyway and the computers liked them more than Bama. The only team that would have been ahead of them would be an undefeated SEC team.

Will a 1-loss Okie Lite team get in over a 1-loss SEC team? Almost certainly not. But last year they didn't miss out because they were Okie Like, they missed out because they lost to Iowa State.

 

[pnuts34]

Not true. If he'd been undefeated last year they would have been in. They almost got in anyway and the computers liked them more than Bama. The only team that would have been ahead of them would be an undefeated SEC team.

Will a 1-loss Okie Lite team get in over a 1-loss SEC team? Almost certainly not. But last year they didn't miss out because they were Okie Like, they missed out because they lost to Iowa State.

Ok I'll give you that because they would've been the only undefeated team. But if Alabama or lsu were to lose to ole miss, vandy or miss st, they would get the benefit of the doubt over if say usc were to lose to Arizona or Washington or if osu lost to Indiana or Illinois