OSUsushichic
Fired up! Ready to go!
All I can say about the RB situation is that I really, really hope we get Maurice Wells next year.
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Nixon
Wears Scarlet-colored glasses
We took Ira Guilford because he was a tremendous prospect. It's quite simple. He was moved to HB in an emergency. If he had stayed at safety, who knows, maybe he would played ahead of Whitner as a freshman. But he was moved to HB in an emergency this summer. Guilford was a better prospect at S then say Curt Lukens who they took in that class. To say he's a wasted scholorship(ignoring the legal stuff) because he's a bad HB is silly.
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gbearbuck
Herbie for President
Ira was a stud in HS... he wasn't a waisted scholie offer (asuumeing he didn't get in trouble :( ).
I would think one of the two freshman TE's will see significant playing time, unless stan can take control of the other TE spot.
With Ross and Hall (and nobody else unless Parker impresses the coaches), we need one more for the spare... my guess is the better of Haw, Pittman, and Kennedy will not redshirt... the other two will (unless Ross or Hall goes down with an injury, then two of the three freshman TB's will not redshirt... leaving only one to redshirt... which IMO would be good to seperate the three a little bit)...
I wonder if Sammy or JaJa wish they would have stayed...?
I would think one of the two freshman TE's will see significant playing time, unless stan can take control of the other TE spot.
With Ross and Hall (and nobody else unless Parker impresses the coaches), we need one more for the spare... my guess is the better of Haw, Pittman, and Kennedy will not redshirt... the other two will (unless Ross or Hall goes down with an injury, then two of the three freshman TB's will not redshirt... leaving only one to redshirt... which IMO would be good to seperate the three a little bit)...
I wonder if Sammy or JaJa wish they would have stayed...?
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RugbyBuck
Our church has no bells.
For what it's worth, the basis for my comment regarding the waste of a scholarship was the current legal problems coupled with a lack of production and limited collegiate upside. I certainly don't dispute that he was highly rated in high school. The question is whether what has ultimately turned into a mistake, factoring in his current issues, could or should have been avoided.
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CleveBucks
Serenity now
Well assuming clarett didn't screw up, Guilford would've redshirted last year and been a backup safety this year. It's way to early to say how much he would've contributed on defense or special teams.
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starBUCKS
BPCFFB League #2 League Champion 2008 & 2010
Just killing some time and ran into the Damon Stringer name. He's doing 4 years for the CC Sabitha robbery, one of those years is a firearms charge. So my guess is LI and Ira would probably get at least 36 months, plus he has the assault charge. I don't think it matters that they didn't use a gun. he legal definition of robbery is where ‘a person steals and immediately before or at the time and in order to do so, uses force on any person or puts or seeks to put, any person in fear of being, then and there, subjected to force’. Being LI's second run in, I'd say he is likely to get at least a 4-5 year sentence if found guilty. Ira would probably get around the same, but because he is a first time offender, may get some of it suspended.
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MORE STUPID BUCKEYES
Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel may be the hottest coaching name in the land after Nick Saban and Pete Carroll, and he may be a hero in the heartland for bringing a championship back to Columbus, but damn, he's sure got a knack for recruiting arrest-prone knuckleheads. Maurice Clarett is the biggest black eye to Tressel's program, but he's actually one of the more upstanding citizens of the recent generation of Buckeyes.
There was wide receiver Angelo Chattams, who in 2002 was investigated for the theft of a set of golf clubs out of the back of an SUV. Or linebacker Marco Cooper, who was busted in 2002 just hours after the school's annual intrasquad scrimmage for felony drug abuse and carrying an illegal concealed weapon in his SUV. Or fullback Brandon Joe, who was found asleep in his car in the middle of a highway ramp. According to the Associated Press, there have been at least 13 arrests involving 14 football players since Tressel was hired in 2001.
Now there is one more pair to add to the tally. Sophomore backup tight end Louis Irizarry and sophomore reserve tailback Ira Guilford were arrested last week and charged with felony robbery. The crime in question was so stupid, pointless and dumbly executed that the school's athletic director Andy Geiger was moved to dispense with the usual "let's wait till the facts come in" line and immediately throw the two players to the wolves.
"These guys are gone," he said Monday. "They're done."
According to police reports, the two players committed one of the more standard campus football crimes—an attack on the sheepish science major minding his own business. Kenneth Whitwell, a biological sciences major, was walking on the Columbus campus at about 3 a.m. when two men jumped out of a Ford Probe with a dented door, punched him in the face, threw him to the ground and stole his wallet. A witness called campus police and Whitwell was able to give a description. Minutes later, according to police, the suspects were apprehended, having parked their car close by and chosen not to escape but to simply stand next to it, gift-wrapping themselves for law-enforcement.
This isn't Irizarry's first run-in with the law. Last fall, he was arrested for punching two students and shoving his girlfriend in a dormitory fight. He spent three days in jail in the wake of that incident, and as a result of his probation settlement, he now remains in custody. At the time of his first arrest, coach Tressel said that Irizarry would "not be allowed to travel or compete in any games until this matter has gone through the legal process and been resolved at the university level." He said this firmly, with conviction. Nonetheless, Irizarry was allowed to play in the Fiesta Bowl against K-State, even though his hearing at school wasn't until a week later.
As unequivocal as Geiger was in the wake of this latest incident, Tressel was less certain. Not willing to cut the cord entirely, he went to the innocent-until-proven-guilty playbook. "We are looking into it aggressively to learn more about the facts," he said. We assume all of Ohio is awaiting the results of his investigation.
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By Matt Taibbi[/font]
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MORE STUPID BUCKEYES
Ohio State football coach Jim Tressel may be the hottest coaching name in the land after Nick Saban and Pete Carroll, and he may be a hero in the heartland for bringing a championship back to Columbus, but damn, he's sure got a knack for recruiting arrest-prone knuckleheads. Maurice Clarett is the biggest black eye to Tressel's program, but he's actually one of the more upstanding citizens of the recent generation of Buckeyes.
There was wide receiver Angelo Chattams, who in 2002 was investigated for the theft of a set of golf clubs out of the back of an SUV. Or linebacker Marco Cooper, who was busted in 2002 just hours after the school's annual intrasquad scrimmage for felony drug abuse and carrying an illegal concealed weapon in his SUV. Or fullback Brandon Joe, who was found asleep in his car in the middle of a highway ramp. According to the Associated Press, there have been at least 13 arrests involving 14 football players since Tressel was hired in 2001.
Now there is one more pair to add to the tally. Sophomore backup tight end Louis Irizarry and sophomore reserve tailback Ira Guilford were arrested last week and charged with felony robbery. The crime in question was so stupid, pointless and dumbly executed that the school's athletic director Andy Geiger was moved to dispense with the usual "let's wait till the facts come in" line and immediately throw the two players to the wolves.
"These guys are gone," he said Monday. "They're done."
According to police reports, the two players committed one of the more standard campus football crimes—an attack on the sheepish science major minding his own business. Kenneth Whitwell, a biological sciences major, was walking on the Columbus campus at about 3 a.m. when two men jumped out of a Ford Probe with a dented door, punched him in the face, threw him to the ground and stole his wallet. A witness called campus police and Whitwell was able to give a description. Minutes later, according to police, the suspects were apprehended, having parked their car close by and chosen not to escape but to simply stand next to it, gift-wrapping themselves for law-enforcement.
This isn't Irizarry's first run-in with the law. Last fall, he was arrested for punching two students and shoving his girlfriend in a dormitory fight. He spent three days in jail in the wake of that incident, and as a result of his probation settlement, he now remains in custody. At the time of his first arrest, coach Tressel said that Irizarry would "not be allowed to travel or compete in any games until this matter has gone through the legal process and been resolved at the university level." He said this firmly, with conviction. Nonetheless, Irizarry was allowed to play in the Fiesta Bowl against K-State, even though his hearing at school wasn't until a week later.
As unequivocal as Geiger was in the wake of this latest incident, Tressel was less certain. Not willing to cut the cord entirely, he went to the innocent-until-proven-guilty playbook. "We are looking into it aggressively to learn more about the facts," he said. We assume all of Ohio is awaiting the results of his investigation.
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SanClementeBuck
Heisman
Seems to me JT has made good progress in classroom stats. Help me here, weren't over 30 Buck players over a 3-point for last quarter's roll call?
Player management is always a work in progress. I look at JT's statement about being proud of our players as a reality. I am proud of the TEAM. I share disappointment with several players, but a distinct minority in numbers. Out of more than 170 to over 200 (in last 3 years), all-stars or nearly so, we've had, what?, a dozen troublemakers? Some of the maladjusted were 1st year students...a tough transition for a regular student.
You can beat the drums for JT's "poor" record in this regard, but I don't buy it. I think Tressel and staff are holding up their part of the organization's leadership.
Doesn't bother me if other Bucks or outsiders disagree w/me on this. The fact is, it's an easy target to take a negative event and beat the hell out of the perp. and anyone nearby. I'll take Tressel's record here and at YSU anyday. He's a great fit for the HC at OSU and we're lucky to have him...dispite continual criticism from those who want offense changed and heavier hand in discipline.
Player management is always a work in progress. I look at JT's statement about being proud of our players as a reality. I am proud of the TEAM. I share disappointment with several players, but a distinct minority in numbers. Out of more than 170 to over 200 (in last 3 years), all-stars or nearly so, we've had, what?, a dozen troublemakers? Some of the maladjusted were 1st year students...a tough transition for a regular student.
You can beat the drums for JT's "poor" record in this regard, but I don't buy it. I think Tressel and staff are holding up their part of the organization's leadership.
Doesn't bother me if other Bucks or outsiders disagree w/me on this. The fact is, it's an easy target to take a negative event and beat the hell out of the perp. and anyone nearby. I'll take Tressel's record here and at YSU anyday. He's a great fit for the HC at OSU and we're lucky to have him...dispite continual criticism from those who want offense changed and heavier hand in discipline.
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DiHard
Guest
mili...you left out "fourth consecutive" in your post.....other than that you were dead on...
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OSUBasketballJunkie
Never Forget 31-0
Lets blame Coach T for the war in Iraq next
by the way, if you think this is not a trend at other schools in the big ten and the country just take a look at cnnsi.com and go to the college football section, 5 out of 8 headlines this past week were about various kids getting into trouble at different schools. Its a society issue not a "lets blame the head coach" thing. Coach T gets what those parents raised.
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tibor, no offense but do you actually believe that its soley the coach's fault for a young kid at college who is out late and makes stupid mistakes or visits his home and gets into trouble? Its IMPOSSIBLE for ANY head coach to "babysit" his players 24-7, I would hope that those kids parents taught their son right from wrong, it starts at home.
by the way, if you think this is not a trend at other schools in the big ten and the country just take a look at cnnsi.com and go to the college football section, 5 out of 8 headlines this past week were about various kids getting into trouble at different schools. Its a society issue not a "lets blame the head coach" thing. Coach T gets what those parents raised.
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