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Talking Religion...

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BB73;2114361; said:
The US Gov't should send a plane with a few thousand Korans/Qu'rans in order to mitigate the PR disaster.
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I think the Afghan govt send someone to personally apologize to family members of the Americans who were killed by nutjobs over a book.
 
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Jake;2120581; said:
I think the Afghan govt send someone to personally apologize to family members of the Americans who were killed by nutjobs over a book.
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I totally agree.

We should also send one to the 98% of Native Americans who died due to that book, and to countless foreigners, and apologize for idiots like Santorum who preach discrimination based upon it, and to all those who idiots like him said "dancing" or "bare ankles" were evil in their ages (it is no different now, just different subjects to attack for the weird religious freaks) and to all the Muslims who were actually educated but whom the whites attacked in the Crusades, and obviously for the subjugation of women in all Abrahamic religions, and for ignoring every passage of the holy book of the moment (there have been many) except for the hateful and discriminatory ones, and of course we should apologize to black people for slavery because the good book said it was okay, and then maybe we apologize to all the South American governments we installed, to the death of their people and populace, for the good name of Christianity, and maybe a few Jews, and maybe me, and then they will all understand that we really finally found the "right" Christianity, which has had thousands of interpretations, and since we have the "right" one now we do everything correctly.

Or something.

And notice the similarity between everything I mentioned in my random rant? Everyplace I mentioned has squirrels. Connect the dots sheeple.
 
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kinch;2120590; said:
I totally agree.

We should also send one to the 98% of Native Americans who died due to that book, and to countless foreigners, and apologize for idiots like Santorum who preach discrimination based upon it, and to all those who idiots like him said "dancing" or "bare ankles" were evil in their ages (it is no different now, just different subjects to attack for the weird religious freaks) and to all the Muslims who were actually educated but whom the whites attacked in the Crusades, and obviously for the subjugation of women in all Abrahamic religions, and for ignoring every passage of the holy book of the moment (there have been many) except for the hateful and discriminatory ones, and of course we should apologize to black people for slavery because the good book said it was okay, and then maybe we apologize to all the South American governments we installed, to the death of their people and populace, for the good name of Christianity, and maybe a few Jews, and maybe me, and then they will all understand that we really finally found the "right" Christianity, which has had thousands of interpretations, and since we have the "right" one now we do everything correctly.

Or something.

And notice the similarity between everything I mentioned in my random rant? Everyplace I mentioned has squirrels. Connect the dots sheeple.
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I totally agree.

Religion has been the root cause of countless atrocities over the course of time, with nutjobs justifying their behavior because their book said it was okay. Thank you for your exhaustive, but by no means comprehensive, list.

The Afghans who are going apeshit and killing people are just the latest egregious examples of such behavior.
 
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kinch;2120590; said:
I totally agree.

We should also send one to the 98% of Native Americans who died due to that book, and to countless foreigners, and apologize for idiots like Santorum who preach discrimination based upon it, and to all those who idiots like him said "dancing" or "bare ankles" were evil in their ages (it is no different now, just different subjects to attack for the weird religious freaks) and to all the Muslims who were actually educated but whom the whites attacked in the Crusades, and obviously for the subjugation of women in all Abrahamic religions, and for ignoring every passage of the holy book of the moment (there have been many) except for the hateful and discriminatory ones, and of course we should apologize to black people for slavery because the good book said it was okay, and then maybe we apologize to all the South American governments we installed, to the death of their people and populace, for the good name of Christianity, and maybe a few Jews, and maybe me, and then they will all understand that we really finally found the "right" Christianity, which has had thousands of interpretations, and since we have the "right" one now we do everything correctly.

Or something.

And notice the similarity between everything I mentioned in my random rant? Everyplace I mentioned has squirrels. Connect the dots sheeple.
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I think a simple note on one's personal stationary expressing regret to those troubled would be more appropriate.
 
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Buckeyeskickbuttocks;2114339; said:
In my opinion, this is the kind of shit that happens when people worship a book and not the G-d that book is supposed to be talking about. I mean, seriously.... If your god can't survive a book going up in flames, maybe its time to find a new god to worship. And.. go buy another Koran then, for fucks sake.. I'm sure they sell them all over the fucking place. Hard to get too upset when ya can just go buy another copy.

I don't know... I'm probably simplifying it too much.
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The real irony is that Islam is the religion most vehemently opposed to idol worship, and yet the Koran (a thing) is the most revered (or tied for first) aspect of the religion itself.

In a discussion a long time ago, a Sudanese friend of mine told me that a Koran written in English is not the Koran, but rather just a translation of the Koran, and therefore not sacred.

I would argue that a Koran is not the word of Allah, but just a copy of a copy of a copy of a transcription of the verbal record of the word of Allah, as repeated by Muhammed... and maybe, since its not the real item, shouldn't be something that lives are lost over... but that's just an idea.
 
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BayBuck;2120604; said:
O, if only there were no religions or holy books at all, life on this world would be a so much more peaceful and cooperative experience.
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Much more? Probably not. A little more? Yes.

I am not saying the world would be a better place. Yet religion is a huge manipulation tool (mostly for good, but also creates large conflicts...not the only one, but a big one).
 
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Pat Robertson says oral sex is OK - sorta.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/15/pat-robertson-oral-sex-is-ok_n_1347517.html?ref=religion

Perhaps only a few topics could make a co-host of the Christian
Broadcasting Network's "700 Club" become "verklempt." But while
Kristi Watts was overwhelmed by the inquiry concerning oral sex in
the context of marriage, Pat Robertson took it in stride.

"The Bible doesn't make that sinful," Robertson said.
"The question is: What's in your heart?"
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"Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing" (Ephesians 5:24).
 
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Jake;2118566; said:
What wasn't originally part of the story is WHY our troops took the korans away in the first place. It seems the devout muslims were defacing the korans, using them to pass notes to one another. Funny how they left out that part.
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Ah, yes.. I'm sure that's in there too... "Do as I say, not as I do"
As far as I'm concerned we should get the hell out of there and stop fucking apologizing. If they become a problem, I refer back to my original thoughts on Afghanistan from a decade ago:

lake_afghanistan.jpg
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That'd be fine, but turning it into glass would do just as well.
 
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