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Steroid/HGH Speculation

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methomps;1463319; said:
Next big name?
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Pujols??

I don't think he's dumb enough to get caught though. Seems like an HGH guy if he were to continue using. And let's be serious, if we're going by body type, Pujols is target #1.

I'm still confused why these guys take anything other than HGH. It isn't tested for. Larry Bowa (3rd base coach for Dodgers) was on the Herd today, and just being honest, pretty much said if you're going to cheat, why use a substance that can be detected? He was curious as to what the story was going to be, b/c he just couldn't comprehend getting caught with a banned performance enhancer when HGH is undetectable. He said the game has made strides, but you can't test for HGH so you know players are still using.
 
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billmac91;1463371; said:
Pujols??

I don't think he's dumb enough to get caught though. Seems like an HGH guy if he were to continue using. And let's be serious, if we're going by body type, Pujols is target #1.

I'm still confused why these guys take anything other than HGH. It isn't tested for. Larry Bowa (3rd base coach for Dodgers) was on the Herd today, and just being honest, pretty much said if you're going to cheat, why use a substance that can be detected? He was curious as to what the story was going to be, b/c he just couldn't comprehend getting caught with a banned performance enhancer when HGH is undetectable. He said the game has made strides, but you can't test for HGH so you know players are still using.
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Because HGH is like eating M&M's compared to Winstrol and others.
 
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I wonder which steroid he took if he was using this to cycle off of them, so to speak.

He's been tested regularly since 2005. I'm guessing he would have been caught by now unless there's a new drug that we aren't sure of.
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1463395; said:
I wonder which steroid he took if he was using this to cycle off of them, so to speak.

He's been tested regularly since 2005. I'm guessing he would have been caught by now unless there's a new drug that we aren't sure of.
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Anyone have an idea of when steroid testing is? Most cycles start with a testosterone base before anything else.

heisman;1463391; said:
Because HGH is like eating M&M's compared to Winstrol and others.
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Not even close...HGH owns winny in all catorgories,and less sides. The downsides to HGH are $$$(no problem for pro athletes),and that you need to take it for an extended period of time.
 
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powerlifter;1463401; said:
Anyone have an idea of when steroid testing is? Most cycles start with a testosterone base before anything else.
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It is supposedly random according to the CBA.

But the thing is I guarantee you he's been tested since Spring Training started in February. That's just too much time to have NOT been caught unless there's a new drug out there they aren't testing for.
 
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Manny should be greeted back at all ballparks with signs like this:

HEY MANNY - GOT WOOD?
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__________________
 
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Bill Simmons: Manny Ramirez's positive drug test makes the Sports Guy confront his worst nightmare - ESPN

Bill Simmons's hypothetical conversation he'll have with his son five years from now:

Nothing was ever really proved," I tell my son, trying to keep up the good fight.

He ignores me and starts rattling through our 2004 lineup with creepy precision. He points out Nomar Garciaparra's remarkable 1999 and 2000 seasons, his subsequent tendon injuries and how his career played out so blandly afterward for reasons that remain unclear. My dad points out the Sox traded Nomar midway through the 2004 season. Technically, that debate shouldn't even matter. Score one for Dad.

"But what about Trot Nixon and Bill Mueller?" my son says. "They missed a bunch of games every year with injuries, put on weight when they were skinny guys, peaked quickly and were never seen again. Same for Mark Bellhorn, right? That's suspicious."

"Well," I say, "their names never came up in anything, so that's not really fair ..."

"And Kevin Millar, he had a few big homer years, then his power numbers went way down once the testing started."

"That's true, but it doesn't prove anything ..."

"And Johnny Damon, he got bigger and started hitting for more power even though he was a singles hitter, right?"

"Well ..."

"And what about Big Papi?" he wonders. "Played for Minnesota, didn't hit for power, came to the Red Sox, turned into the best slugger in the league, and as soon as they cracked down on steroids, he stopped hitting homers again. And he was friends with all the other Dominican players who were linked to performance-enhancing drugs. What about him?"

Silence. Nobody says anything.

Finally, my dad steps in: "He had an inside-outside swing at Minnesota, when he came to Boston, we encouraged him to pull the ball, so ..."

"Come on, Gramps!" my son says. "That's dumb, and you know it."

We glance out to the field. Big Papi is one of Boston's coaches now. After he hit 54 homers in 2006, his career was over within four years. Now he's just a fat guy in his early 40s coaching first base. You would never guess this is the same guy who carried us in 2004, the guy who fueled the Greatest Comeback Ever, the guy who helped convince an entire fan base that, yes, we could believe.

"And what about Manny?" my son asks. "He tested positive for performance enhancers in 2009 with the Dodgers. How do you know he wasn't using that whole time?"

"Well, we don't," I say. "But that was kind of a fluke -- he had a doctor in Florida who prescribed him a banned substance, and ..."
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BuckeyeMike80;1463404; said:
It is supposedly random according to the CBA.

But the thing is I guarantee you he's been tested since Spring Training started in February. That's just too much time to have NOT been caught unless there's a new drug out there they aren't testing for.
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The positive sample was taken in spring training.
 
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