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Steroid/HGH Speculation

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BuckeyeLiger87;1411921; said:
Frank Thomas probably shouldn't be on that list played tight end in college at Auburn...Then again he did play college football in the 80's in the SEC. But seriously I doubt it, he was nautuarlly massive and if you gonna add for those reason might as well speculate with Mo Vaugh, David Ortiz etc.
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Unless somebody spiked Mo Vaugh's Krispy Kremes, I think he's OK.

I'm not sure about Papi though. He's had some health problems since 2006 when he was scratched for suffering an irregular heartbeat, and now all of a sudden he's miraculously concerned about his health and well-being and reported to camp this year lighter than ever before.

Uh huh ...
 
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BuckeyeNation27;1411933; said:
Frank Thomas was the first person to come to my mind when I realized there were 103 names that we don't know about. The guy is a [censored]ing horse. If he wasn't on the juice, I'll root for the Yankees, Lakers, Patriots, Duke, and the SEC to all win their respective championships.
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Well if he did he is a massive hypocrite( of course Palmero and others fit that bill) as well as a cheater.

Thomas a bright light in shadow of steroids

I'm not really mad about it, but I do feel I was overshadowed by some of those guys," Thomas said. "And I was penalized in contract situations because of (those comparisons) -- I had a diminished-skills clause written in after I hit 29 home runs and drove in 92 RBIs (in 2002), and I think those (inflated numbers by steroid users) are partly to blame."
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"I was the one who was naive about what's going on," Thomas said. "I said, 'No one is taking that stuff. Guys are just working harder and harder in the gym.' I expected there would be a strong drug-testing program, and I just didn't think baseball players would do it. I did not think it was the kind of sport where guys would need steroids."
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I'm 100% sure on Bo Jackson and about 80% sure on The Big Hurt(though I wouldn't be surprised if he did mess with something during he era to recover faster from getting hurt all the time).
 
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BuckeyeMike80;1405334; said:
Guys that it wouldn't shock me at all if they used at some point:

Josh Hamilton
Brandon Phillips
Matt Williams
Brady Anderson (ok I am 100% certain he used, but no one really cares anymore :lol: )
Albert Belle
Carlos Beltran
Jeff Bagwell

Players that I do not think ever used:

Mike Mussina
Mark Grace
Craig Biggio
Fred McGriff

Those are a few I can come up with off of the top of my head....
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Brandon Phillips???? Really??



#1 person on my list who I think used would be David Ortiz

-58 Hr's in 6 seasons with Minnesota and hit 72 Hr's in first 2 years in Boston.

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AVG1997 Minnesota Twins1549101630162221900.353.449.3271998 Minnesota Twins862784777200946124397210.371.446.2771999 Minnesota Twins1020100000051200.200.000.0002000 Minnesota Twins130415591173611063185578110.364.446.2822001 Minnesota Twins8930346711711848144406810.324.475.2342002 Minnesota Twins125412521123212075206438712.339.500.2722003 Boston Red Sox1284487912939231101265588300.369.592.2882004 Boston Red Sox15058294175473411393517513300.380.603.3012005 Boston Red Sox1596011191814014814836710212310.398.611.3012006 Boston Red Sox1515581151602925413735511911710.413.636.2872007 Boston Red Sox1495491161825213511734111110331.445.621.3322008 Boston Red Sox109416741103012389211707410.369.507.264
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http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/stats/individual_stats_player.jsp?c_id=bos&playerID=120074

-Amazing how you can go from hitting 20 Hr's to hitting 54 Hr's in 3 years.

Wouldnt be surprised if it came out Travis Hafner used roids either. The bat looks like an f'en toothpick in his hands.



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EDDIE GGGG27;1412629; said:
Brandon Phillips???? Really??



#1 person on my list who I think used would be David Ortiz

-58 Hr's in 6 seasons with Minnesota and hit 72 Hr's in first 2 years in Boston.

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AVG1997 Minnesota Twins1549101630162221900.353.449.3271998 Minnesota Twins862784777200946124397210.371.446.2771999 Minnesota Twins1020100000051200.200.000.0002000 Minnesota Twins130415591173611063185578110.364.446.2822001 Minnesota Twins8930346711711848144406810.324.475.2342002 Minnesota Twins125412521123212075206438712.339.500.2722003 Boston Red Sox1284487912939231101265588300.369.592.2882004 Boston Red Sox15058294175473411393517513300.380.603.3012005 Boston Red Sox1596011191814014814836710212310.398.611.3012006 Boston Red Sox1515581151602925413735511911710.413.636.2872007 Boston Red Sox1495491161825213511734111110331.445.621.3322008 Boston Red Sox109416741103012389211707410.369.507.264
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David Ortiz Career Statistics | redsox.com: Stats

-Amazing how you can go from hitting 20 Hr's to hitting 54 Hr's in 3 years.

Wouldnt be surprised if it came out Travis Hafner used roids either. The bat looks like an f'en toothpick in his hands.



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Manny Ramirez hitting behind you creates career numbers.
 
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BuckeyeLiger87 said:
Well if he did he is a massive hypocrite( of course Palmero and others fit that bill) as well as a cheater.

Thomas a bright light in shadow of steroids






I'm 100% sure on Bo Jackson and about 80% sure on The Big Hurt(though I wouldn't be surprised if he did mess with something during he era to recover faster from getting hurt all the time).
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I hope he didn't. He was my favorite White Sox player. But I can't look at a guy that big anymore and not have my doubts.
 
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EDDIE GGGG27;1413415; said:
IDC who's hitting behind you. You dont go from 18 HR's to 50 HR's within 3 years. And just look at that picture.
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my dad golfed with Kevin Millar a few years ago, and he was saying he'd be a Hall of Famer with Manny hitting behind him.....he said it jokingly, but the point was made.

It's no surprise Ortiz' numbers dramtically dipped as soon as Manny left town last year either.

I think the year Jeff Kent won his MVP, Barry Bonds was hitting behind him, not surprisingly. It's the difference between getting meatballs in 2-0, 3-1 counts and a pitcher putting you on first base and attacking the next hitter.
 
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BuckeyeLiger87;1412515; said:
I'm 100% sure on Bo Jackson and about 80% sure on The Big Hurt(though I wouldn't be surprised if he did mess with something during he era to recover faster from getting hurt all the time).
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Not saying Bo didn't take anything,but he is probably the best athlete i've ever had a chance to see. I think god gave him a rare genetic gift,regardless.
 
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