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Sloopy45 said:
exhawg: "I just saw the trailer for the new movie for first time over the weekend and It looks promising. I think the movie is going to blow away the past 2."

Sorry my friend, you are wrong. I kust finished reading the novelization of Revenge of the Sith, and it sucks just as bad as the other two prequels, regardless of the fact that Darth Vader appears in the last three minutes of the movie.

Its stupid, tedious, illogical, creates even more inconsistencies with the original movies, and is almost aggravatingly (sp?) pointless. You'd almost be better off spending the $9, doing something else for two hours, and then popping in the theater for the final minute of the movie. Heed my warning, you heard it here first.
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It will only be $5 for the early showing on May 21. :P
I'm sure I've paid more for worse in the past.
 
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Sloopy why do you have to be such a party pooper. :roll1:

I do want to see the battle scenes and seeing digital Yoda kicking ass again. But I knew the stories would be a downer, but the reason you go to see the Star Wars is to relive our youth and remember what it felt like being in the theatre and being shocked at "Luke, I am your father". Yeah the script is horrible and the acting is probable bad just because the writing it horrible. But for all the horrible movies I get dragged to by the woman, at least I will get some joy out of this even if it will never come close to the first 3.
 
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I also read the book, and Sloopy is right to a certain extent.

However, what story isn't ruined when you read the ending first?

Yeah - the dialogue will continue to suck (for the 6th time in this series), "Holes" in the story will be created, Special Effects will be the biggest star, and people will show up wearing robes and costumes (which really isn't any different than 100,00+ watching a game in the 'Shoe while wearing replica jerseys...).

BUT, it is still the final Star Wars movie and will still be entertaining for the vast majority of people. Hard Core fans will hate it, hate how "surprises" from the first trilogy were "ruined" and complain about it for months.

To Sloopy - I totally agree that the book and the movie need to be different in a few key areas or some of the dialogue on Dagobah about about the Skywalker family becomes CRAP.
exhawg - drop your $5 on May 19 and you will get the added bonus of hearing the "fans" complain about the film.
 
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I don't think it is the "fans" of Star Wars who complain about the new trilogy. If you go to www.theforce.net, which is one of the biggest SW fan sites out there (perhaps the biggest) you will find a very positive attitude about of the prequels...especially Attack of the Clones. I believe AotC was rated the second best movie of the trilogy by that web site.

The harshest critics of the SW prequels generally fall into two categories. Either they are self-hating, sci-fi/fantasy fanboys along the lines of Comic Book Guy; or they were huge fans of the originally triology, which they saw as children, who can no longer see through the filter of adulthood to recapture the experience with the new movies.

Also, how can you base the quality of the movie based on the novilizations? Have you ever read the ESB or RotJ novels? They are horrible!

Ratboy, good call on the fact that we already know the ending. This of course takes away a lot from the story. We are critical of the Jedi because how could they not see that Anakin was on a path to destruction. Well, that is an easy call for us since we have known he will become Darth Vader from the very beginning.

I also keep hearing people talk about inconsistencies between the first trilogy and the prequels. Looking at the first two movies, I don't see where they inconsistencies are at. The example of a few Jedi being killed by an entire droid army in AotC is not an inconsistency. The Jedi are not "gods", as Qui-Gon Jin points out to Anakin when he says he wishes it was true that no one can kill a Jedi.
 
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I have never read any of the Star Wars books. I don't care about the inconsistencies between the trilogy and the prequels. The trilogy is by far better than the first two prequels, IMO for only two reasons:

1. The acting sucks ass. Totally sucks ass. It is actually painful, literally, to watch Anakin and Amidala interact with each other.

2. The writing sucks ass. Totally sucks ass. It is actually painful to hear the actors trying to put any emotion into the stilted, monotonous writing.
 
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I went back and re-watched both prequels this week. The thing that I did differently this time was to try and block out all of the great special effects. The result was, that I noticed alot of additions to the acting and directing that I hadn't noticed before. What I originally pawned off as bad acting was simply my inability to see past the special effects, and to look into the story. Attack of The Clones had a lot of interesting sideways looks, and body language in it, that if read properly tells a much bigger story than the words that are said. People getting on Christensen for being a whiny Anakin is another thing that I was able to bring out, as a kid that didn't was going through multiple internal struggles, and didn't know how to deal with it properly. Phantom Menace also had many of these qualities, but the acting from the minor characters was much worse in 1, than it was in 2. I had also given the main characters all the credit for the bad acting before revisiting the movies this week.

I am very excited to see Revenge of The Sith, and realize that the first time I go will be strictly for the special effects, and after that, I'll have to take a closer look at what I consider to be holes, or mistakes.
 
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tibor75 said:
The only thing that can redeem the entire set of prequels would be if Darth Vadar took his lightsader right through Jar Jar Binks as he was exclaiming, "Annie! Is 'hat you?"
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I just watched Episode 1 last night and I wondered what the movie would be like if Lucas would go back through and redo the character for Jar Jar to make him less annoying. Make all of the Gungans hardcore warriors or something. Jar Jar alway reminded me of the Olsen twins in Full House.
 
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Piney: "I do want to see the battle scenes and seeing digital Yoda kicking ass again."

Yoda doesn't kick ass. He's overwhelmed by Palpatine in a mismatch. The scene of Yoda fighting on Kashykk (Chewbacca's home planet, and primary setting of the Star Wars Holiday Special in '78) is mysteriously not detailed in the book.

Ratboy18: "To Sloopy - I totally agree that the book and the movie need to be different in a few key areas or some of the dialogue on Dagobah about about the Skywalker family becomes CRAP."

EXACTLY. And B-I-N-G-O was his Name-O. Luke never goes to Dagobah as a child, Leia is the 2nd child out and never sees her mother, Obi-Wan is aware of Leia the whole time, and tell me this: if R2-D2's memory is never erased, then how come he can't remember who Yoda is when he & Luke first go to Dagobah?? All were inferred in the first triology, and all either didn't happen or the opposite happened in the prequels.

buckeyegrad: "The example of a few Jedi being killed by an entire droid army in AotC is not an inconsistency."

?????? JAR-JAR defeated that same Droid army!!! Lets see: they can KILL Jedi, but are no match for Jar-Jar! Hmmmmm. Do you realize that Storm Troopers kill Jedi in Revenge of the Sith?? These same Storm Troopers who (in the previous movies) are vulnerable to mind control from a Jedi, can't shoot straight, and get taken out by Ewoks. How is there even a HINT of consistency in that?

All Mace Windu has to do is wave his hand and say, "These aren't the muthafucking Droids you're looking for" and the Storm Troopers are rended useless.

Tibbs: "The only thing that can redeem the entire set of prequels would be if Darth Vadar took his lightsader right through Jar Jar Binks as he was exclaiming, "Annie! Is 'hat you?"

Tibbs, you ever see the Simpsons episode where the Comic Book store guy has a toy Jar-Jar encased in glass on the counter? As soon as everyone leaves, he freaks out at the toy: "WHY DO YOU EXIST!!?" (forget the exact line)
 
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I just needed to add that there are some instances where knowing about The OC is not gay. For instance, if one says... "That hot chick that I fuck all the time makes her money as an actress on The OC, but I never watch that stupid fucking show and I wish she'd quit whining about why I don't call after I fuck her." That's not gay.

If one were to say something like... "I watched The OC." That's gay. If one were to say... "The OC was on in the background while my girlfriend who's not on The OC was giving me head." That's also gay. Additionally, it's gay if you say, "After a long day of working as a lumberjack it's nice to relax by playing hockey or watching The OC."
 
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