i said that the quote was wrong, and without a proper quote, the arguement is useless, which is 100% true... unfortunately, it was MY arguement that was useless...
look... i did not remember Ben saying, 'before you were born.' actually, i still don't but since several people have confirmed your post, then i'm rather inclined to believe you, and them... now, from my perspective, it was an erroneous quote. hence, my arguement. i am sorry that you saw it as some kind of personal attack, because it was not personal at all... i was merely pointing out, mistakenly i will admit, what i thought was wrong... get it? i was wrong, i'm the asshole...
sorry...