Star Wars (May the Force be with you)

[Sloopy45]

Thump: "First off, do you know how to freaking quote people on here instead of typing in italics all the time?"

Yup.

"What I meant by that comment was, didn't you have other things that were important to you at that age besides obsessing over Star Wars?"

Dude, I was EIGHT YEARS OLD!! EIGHT! Yeah, I had other interests: I loved sports, played Little League, I loved Kiss (my favorite band at the time), and did things that a typical 8-year old does. You either dove too deeply into what I said, or you're clutching at straws trying to write something back. I'm leaning towards the latter. Next time, come up with something better.

Zurp: "Let's see if Sloopy can come back with another "jizz-mopper," or similar comment."

Ok. I hear you're a pretty good jizz-mopper: people can't see themselves on the glass after you're done.

 

[BrutusMaximus]

I am happy that some people were pleased with the prequels. I will admit that the 3rd one was the best by far. I personally did not like the first one, and didnt like the second one at all except for the end. However putting the prequels in the same ballpark as the originals......not a snowball's chance. However that also has alot to do with the timeframe.

Think about it.........1977. And a movie like star wars comes out. Nothing like it has EVER been done before, and it's just freaking incredible. Now think about all the special effects and great movies since then. Are the prequels just overshadowed alot? Sure they are.

 

[AKAK]

Think about it.........1977. And a movie like star wars comes out. Nothing like it has EVER been done before, and it's just freaking incredible. Now think about all the special effects and great movies since then. Are the prequels just overshadowed alot? Sure they are.

Quick story.. on the "its taken us 28 years to get here" idea... was talking to about 7 or 8 of my boys before it came out (all 30-35)... a couple were very disenchanted with the first 2 prequels... a couple others just not big fans.... heck Even I wasn;t exteremly psyched about it... like I was for Menace....but tehy wer mucking around... and I asked them, "Alright... you aren't all that excited.... what are you going to do? Not see it?"

Clearly not an option.

 

[Thump]

Basically, my reasoning is this: I love these movies as much, if not more than, anybody. I mean, I really, really, love the old movies. They're a part of my life, considering that the first 8 years of my life revolved around them.

Does that sound like someone with any outside interests?

Hey man, I'm just using your own words here.

What if I used your quote to describe myself and instead of talking about Star Wars was talking about oh let's say Police Academy.

How big of a loser would I sound like?

 

[tibor75]

Does that sound like someone with any outside interests?

Hey man, I'm just using your own words here.

What if I used your quote to describe myself and instead of talking about Star Wars was talking about oh let's say Police Academy.

How big of a loser would I sound like?

well, your life now revolves around this message board, so I fail to see how that is any better.

 

[Thump]

well, your life now revolves around this message board, so I fail to see how that is any better.

Mr. Pot, please meet Mr. Kettle.

 

[Zurp]

well, your life now revolves around this message board, so I fail to see how that is any better.

What does this message board have to do with Police Academy movies?

"The B is for Bargain!"

 

[BrutusMaximus]

Gee if I knew this thread was gonna turn into a big prick-waving dick-fight, I wouldnt have started it :)

Thump - being a tad been critical arent we? Good lord, I know alot of star wars and star trek geeks. And I do mean GEEKS. Cant really judge them, that's what they enjoy. I hate baseball, but it doesnt mean that I will call someone names because they like it.

 

[Sloopy45]

Thump: "Does that sound like someone with any outside interests?"

a.) You're talking about an EIGHT YEAR OLD!! An EIGHT YEAR OLD's "Outside Interests!!" Is any of this registering as to how stupid that sounds??

b.) This is a message board (as you know from your 50,000 posts). I didn't feel it was appropriate or on-topic to list in detail what all my interests were as an 8 year old. If you like, I can write you a book length list.

"What if I used your quote to describe myself and instead of talking about Star Wars was talking about oh let's say Police Academy."

I liked the Police Academys. That was one of my "outside interests" as an 8 year old too. Tackleberry is the best.

List for me all your "outside interests" as an 8 year old. Please. Friggin' moron. Why don't you go ahead and ding me again?

 

[buckeyegrad]

What if I used your quote to describe myself and instead of talking about Star Wars was talking about oh let's say Police Academy.

How big of a loser would I sound like?

There is a big difference between Star Wars and Police Academy. As Homer put it:

"Why do you think I took you to all those Police Academy movies? For fun? Well I didn't hear anybody laughin', did you?"

 

[stxbuck]

Tibbs: "A movie with shitty dialogue can't be good. Unless it's a Steven Seagal flick."

How can you criticize the dialogue of a great American actor who gave us lines like:

"One thought he was invincible, the other thought he could fly ... they were both wrong!"

"Tattoos, I'm tellin' ya, without that gun & that badge, this guy's nuthin'!"

"I'm gonna take you to the bank, Senator .. to the blood bank!"

"Yeah, well ... I also cook."

"Who is this fucking cherry?"

"Lento's ... yeah, come on over, we'll give you a table."

Extra credit to anyone who can tell me which Seagal movie each of those lines is from & what Seagal's character's name is in said movie. Triple extra credit if you can tell me the name of the villain.

1- Marked For Death
-don't remember his characters name
-his sister in the movie was played by a former Miss Arkansas who appeared in Playboy, and was rumored to have been "marked" by Bill Clinton
-the villains were the Screwface twins-"thank god there weren't triplets"
-According to Spike Lee, Marked for Death is "the most racist piece of shit ever"

2-No idea

3-Forget the title, it is the 1st one, where he wakes up from a coma and hooks up w/ Kelly LeBrock

4-Under Siege/Under Siege II-Dark Territory-I have no clue which one-he was a cook
-Casey Rybach
- Tommy Lee Jones-I or Eric Bogosian-who should be in way more films, he is awesome-Travis something
-I was pissed the porter chick in II-Sandra Taylor- didn't jump out of a cake like Erika Eleniak did in I, she made up for it tho, because she posed in Playboy too

5-no idea

6-no idea

 

[sandgk]

"I'm gonna take you to the bank, Senator Trent. To the blood bank!"

Hard to Kill

Which also included the immortal lines:


"I want to kill you so bad, I can hardly contain myself"

and

Oh, I know what you're thinking. Mine's bigger than yours. Its not fair..."

 

[BB73]

And, btw, I never insulted you so ease up on the 'annoying.' I'm much less annoying than someone who writes book-length features on how great George Lucas' shit smells without any regard for critically analyzing the work.

I believe that someone can be insulted without the other person meaning to do so. Thus, the offending person cannot reasonably state that they 'never insulted' the other person. The insult may not have been intended, but it still could have occurred.

That's all I feel like contributing to this urination contest right now.

 

[lvbuckeye]

Piney: "Not saying that it made them better, but in Lucas' "vision" of what it should be."

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said in the post, except for this statement.

Lucas never had a 'vision' as to what the prequels would be. If there was indeed a 'vision' that he stuck to, then there would be no inconsistencies whatsoever.

Its clearly evident from the disaster that is the Prequels, that Lucas had a rough outline of a backstory. Never a solid vision, idea, or script for them. He's made all this crap up as he goes along, and completely disregarded a lot of stuff from the previous movies to fill in holes & deficiencies from his lack of writing skills.

There is no 'vision' here anymore. Just a 60 year old man who had one phenomenal idea in his life, and whose ego's grown way too big for his britches since he gave us that idea 28 years ago.

okay... i've had enough... for the record, i'm 30, saw V, VI, I, II, and III in the theaters at the time of the original release... i've seen IV more times than i can count...

first of all, Sloopy... you are reading WAY too much into this... Star Wars was never intended to be the epic that it was. Star Wars was a space opera based loosely on FLASH GORDON... the whole story has always been cheesy, campy space opera... like Grad said, it's a myth, not a fact... this is my numer one complaint about jaded fan-boys like yourself- no offense intended, that's just my observation... is what it is. take it or leave it. When Star Wars (IV) came out, there was no plan to make V, VI, I, II, or III. it was the ridiculous popluarity of the franchise that demanded the rest of the movies to be made... i am quite sure that if you look hard enough, you'll find some pretty blatant screw-ups in the OT... like the TIE fighter flying clean through the Milleniun Falcon, in Jedi... but the inconsistancies aren't the point: the point is that Good will conquer Evil. that's it. Good Wins in the End, and Bad loses... pretty crazy concept for someone to make a few Billion off of, huh?

if you want an Epic Good beats Evil story with no inconsistancies, then i highly suggest that you start at Genesis 1:1, and read the Bible straight through to the last verse of Revelation.

i can anwer a few Qs about that...

edit:

Not so much from other people on this thread, but from phony movie critics & buckeyegrad, in particular. Return of the Jedi is a great movie, but its now diminished by those people in an attempt to bring the shitty prequels up to its level. There's no way any of these movies is in the same GALAXY (pun intended) as Jedi. Not even close.

well, i don't know about you, but i liked Jedi because i was eight... my sister, who is nine years older than me, thought that Jedi was colossal horseshit, and that the Ewoks totally sucked... perspective, my friend...

edit2:

First off, lets not try to psycho-analyze me. The original Star Wars was one of the greatest movies of all time, and I don't like the new ones.

i realise that you are entitled to your opinion, but that an opinion doesn't make it so... in my opinion, Phish is the greatest band of all time... in someone else's opinion they suck ass... you know, that trite expression, "opinions are like assholes"?

"Who's more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

this is my favorite so far, especially in your case... i hope you can step back, and relish that statement in all it's delicious irony...

i loved the original three, and i love the new three... it's entertainment, not religion...

 

[BrutusMaximus]

Phish is the greatest band of all time... in someone else's opinion they suck ass

Boy you can say that again :)

I agree with your points though. It is just as simple as someone who likes onions, and someone who doesnt. I dont like the new 3, because I dont believe them to be nearly as good as the first 3. No other reason. They are overly bloated with pretty backgrounds and stuff, but lack that deep story. Again though, I think that's because you cant do the same thing twice. If these movies would have come out in 1977............then they would be talked about as Epics.