I remember well the day he pancaked lincoln kennedy of PSU. Their 300 lb defensive lineman.
Pace never even blinked.
DOWN GOES KENNEDY!!!!
Pace never even blinked.
DOWN GOES KENNEDY!!!!
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IronBuckI;681503; said:
Damn, I could've swore LeCharles was still playing. :!
Ohio St. had more future NFLers in that game. That's why we were arguably more talented.
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now I just have to figure out how this respect stuff works 
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jimotis4heisman;683235; said:
Sorry don't know where the link went. It compared the draft picks from both teams. I believe, at the time the comparison was done, we had somewhere around 25(give or take 5) players drafted and Miami had a few less. I believe that game set an NCAA record for most combined future NFL draft picks.
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NightmaresDad
Woody Rules!
OregonBuckeye;683284; said:
I know the Buffalo Bills have made out pretty well from that game.
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NightmaresDad;683363; said:
They might as well just move to Ohio and so their rookies don't have to make the long flight. :tongue2:
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pokey
But Queeks Draw
Article from Orange and Blue Hue
For the most part, I do agree with the article. I think florida exhibits more speed than michigan at the defensive back and receiver positions and is equal to michigan at the other positions. Therefore, florida will be the fastest team ohio state has ever faced. Also, I think florida exhibits more speed than ohio state at only the defensive back positions (mainly reggie nelson) and is equal to ohio state at the other positions.
http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2006/12/08/sec-speed/#more-477
National Championship Game | 12.08.06 One of the latest catch phrases circling the internet these days is ?SEC speed?. This is often used by SEC fans and most recently by Florida fans as an attempt to identify a secret weapon that the Gators can use against the Buckeyes. We hear it in sentences such as ?The Buckeyes haven?t seen a team with SEC speed? or ?Big 10 teams can?t match up with faster SEC teams?.
Apparently, there is a line of thought that athletes in the South are generally faster than their northern or western counterparts. The stereotype is that Big 10 teams are bigger, stronger and thus slower while SEC schools put a premium on quicker and faster players. Much of this evolves from the natural climate contrast between regions. Since the SEC schools are based in the South, the weather is usually warmer and even in the winter the temperatures are moderate. BIG 10 schools are forced to play in weather conditions that turn from harsh to downright frightening in the winter months. Because of this a power game that would be an advantage in the South turns into an absolute ?must have? in the North where inclement weather can mitigate individual athleticism.
Stereotypes are rarely accurate depictions because they don?t account for any variation. Still, could there be a basis for this belief or is it simply another misguided notion based on anecdotal evidence? Is there an SEC speed advantage that can really help the Gators in Tempe? We decided to take a look.
First we need a data set from direct matchups between BIG TEN and SEC teams. We would also prefer a situation involving relatively equal teams. For example the Michigan (11-1) and Vanderbilt (4-7) game earlier this year would be a poor indicator. We want games between teams of the same relative strength. Luckily there is a perfect data set waiting for us . . . its called Bowl Game Results.
In the past 5 years there have been 14 bowl games between teams of the two conferences. Looking at the results, if there is an advantage from having a faster team it seems to be slight. In those games the SEC has won 8 of the 14 matchups. Five of those games have been decided by 5 points or less and half were decided by a TD or less. Six of the games were won by 10 points or more, 3 by each conference.
In the past 5 years the results of meetings between the conferences better teams are a virtual tossup. Does this mean speed is not a factor or is the power game an equally effective counter for BIG TEN teams? Either way, the games seem to be balanced even if not always competitive.
Next we looked at NFL players taken in some recent drafts. Based on recent drafts picks I assembled a list and grouped the players together by position. I was limited in the players I could actually find NFL 40 times on but I think it produces a snapshot between the schools. For example, four OSU LBs had 40 times between 4.61 and 4.94 while two UF LBs had times of 4.62 and 4.96. The WRs between the two schools were all either 4.4 or 4.5. All the linemen ran in the low 5s. In the secondary the OSU times were 4.53, 4.45 and 4.60 while the UF times were 4.50, 4.53 and 4.97. UF had three draft caliber defensive linemen with times of 4.72, 4.84 and 4.90. I could only find one OSU lineman and he was timed at 4.62.
In total, both schools have produced a number of draft picks with measurable 40 times. Granted these are the best of the best, the players who have enough to ability to either play or be selected to attempt to earn a position on an NFL team. It seems the speeds of THESE players at least are comparable.
In conclusion I find the idea that Florida will take the field with a speed advantage as ludicrous. Both schools recruit the elite caliber high school recruits. Top recruits often come with size, strength and speed. Even when these teams haven?t fielded championship contending teams they continue to fill the NFL pipeline. Urban Meyer has stated that his goal is to field the fastest team in the country. Jim Tressel has also long recognized the need for fast athletes and has recruited a great deal of speed to Columbus over the years.
While there won?t be a tremendous difference between the two teams in terms of speed, there could still be an effect in the game. It?s not the speed of YOUR team that is the key factor, it?s the speed of your opponent and how you account for it. While I don?t believe there to be any great overall speed advantage for one side or the other I do believe there will be a period of adjustment. Ohio State has twice played opponents with great overall team speed in Michigan and Texas. The rest of its opponents had a significant ?velocity? disadvantage to the Buckeyes.
Florida HAS played a larger number of fast teams (Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, FSU and Georgia). Out of that group only LSU has the combination of speed AND size that the Buckeye?s possess but if Florida is beaten it won?t be because they weren?t prepared for the quickness of Ohio State. I expect speed to play a factor in this game but it will be from individuals either making plays on their own or being put into a position where they can use their speed to their advantage. But we won?t know which team does this until January 6th.
For the most part, I do agree with the article. I think florida exhibits more speed than michigan at the defensive back and receiver positions and is equal to michigan at the other positions. Therefore, florida will be the fastest team ohio state has ever faced. Also, I think florida exhibits more speed than ohio state at only the defensive back positions (mainly reggie nelson) and is equal to ohio state at the other positions.
http://www.orangeandbluehue.com/2006/12/08/sec-speed/#more-477
National Championship Game | 12.08.06 One of the latest catch phrases circling the internet these days is ?SEC speed?. This is often used by SEC fans and most recently by Florida fans as an attempt to identify a secret weapon that the Gators can use against the Buckeyes. We hear it in sentences such as ?The Buckeyes haven?t seen a team with SEC speed? or ?Big 10 teams can?t match up with faster SEC teams?.
Apparently, there is a line of thought that athletes in the South are generally faster than their northern or western counterparts. The stereotype is that Big 10 teams are bigger, stronger and thus slower while SEC schools put a premium on quicker and faster players. Much of this evolves from the natural climate contrast between regions. Since the SEC schools are based in the South, the weather is usually warmer and even in the winter the temperatures are moderate. BIG 10 schools are forced to play in weather conditions that turn from harsh to downright frightening in the winter months. Because of this a power game that would be an advantage in the South turns into an absolute ?must have? in the North where inclement weather can mitigate individual athleticism.
Stereotypes are rarely accurate depictions because they don?t account for any variation. Still, could there be a basis for this belief or is it simply another misguided notion based on anecdotal evidence? Is there an SEC speed advantage that can really help the Gators in Tempe? We decided to take a look.
First we need a data set from direct matchups between BIG TEN and SEC teams. We would also prefer a situation involving relatively equal teams. For example the Michigan (11-1) and Vanderbilt (4-7) game earlier this year would be a poor indicator. We want games between teams of the same relative strength. Luckily there is a perfect data set waiting for us . . . its called Bowl Game Results.
In the past 5 years there have been 14 bowl games between teams of the two conferences. Looking at the results, if there is an advantage from having a faster team it seems to be slight. In those games the SEC has won 8 of the 14 matchups. Five of those games have been decided by 5 points or less and half were decided by a TD or less. Six of the games were won by 10 points or more, 3 by each conference.
In the past 5 years the results of meetings between the conferences better teams are a virtual tossup. Does this mean speed is not a factor or is the power game an equally effective counter for BIG TEN teams? Either way, the games seem to be balanced even if not always competitive.
Next we looked at NFL players taken in some recent drafts. Based on recent drafts picks I assembled a list and grouped the players together by position. I was limited in the players I could actually find NFL 40 times on but I think it produces a snapshot between the schools. For example, four OSU LBs had 40 times between 4.61 and 4.94 while two UF LBs had times of 4.62 and 4.96. The WRs between the two schools were all either 4.4 or 4.5. All the linemen ran in the low 5s. In the secondary the OSU times were 4.53, 4.45 and 4.60 while the UF times were 4.50, 4.53 and 4.97. UF had three draft caliber defensive linemen with times of 4.72, 4.84 and 4.90. I could only find one OSU lineman and he was timed at 4.62.
In total, both schools have produced a number of draft picks with measurable 40 times. Granted these are the best of the best, the players who have enough to ability to either play or be selected to attempt to earn a position on an NFL team. It seems the speeds of THESE players at least are comparable.
In conclusion I find the idea that Florida will take the field with a speed advantage as ludicrous. Both schools recruit the elite caliber high school recruits. Top recruits often come with size, strength and speed. Even when these teams haven?t fielded championship contending teams they continue to fill the NFL pipeline. Urban Meyer has stated that his goal is to field the fastest team in the country. Jim Tressel has also long recognized the need for fast athletes and has recruited a great deal of speed to Columbus over the years.
While there won?t be a tremendous difference between the two teams in terms of speed, there could still be an effect in the game. It?s not the speed of YOUR team that is the key factor, it?s the speed of your opponent and how you account for it. While I don?t believe there to be any great overall speed advantage for one side or the other I do believe there will be a period of adjustment. Ohio State has twice played opponents with great overall team speed in Michigan and Texas. The rest of its opponents had a significant ?velocity? disadvantage to the Buckeyes.
Florida HAS played a larger number of fast teams (Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, FSU and Georgia). Out of that group only LSU has the combination of speed AND size that the Buckeye?s possess but if Florida is beaten it won?t be because they weren?t prepared for the quickness of Ohio State. I expect speed to play a factor in this game but it will be from individuals either making plays on their own or being put into a position where they can use their speed to their advantage. But we won?t know which team does this until January 6th.
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Maybe its already been asked but have the SEC types forgotten we played Texas this year, or is southwestern speed different from just regular southern speed?
I ask because I keep seeing people say UF will be the fastest team we play this year and am just wondering if I'm the only human being on the planet that thinks UT can put athletes on the field with anyone?
I ask because I keep seeing people say UF will be the fastest team we play this year and am just wondering if I'm the only human being on the planet that thinks UT can put athletes on the field with anyone?
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SanAntonioBuck
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Florida fans don't know the game is being played on January 8th...pokey;684596; said:
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SATXBuck;684660; said:Florida fans don't know the game is being played on January 8th...
They are just so much faster they do everything 2 days ahead of when slow midwestern fans see it.
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