Senior Bowl '07

[TJnTN]

This from ESPN's Live Chat from the Senior Bowl

CJ (Orlando, FL): What's your honest opinion of Troy Smith?

Todd McShay: (12:34 PM ET ) My honest opinion is that he had a good week but not a great week here at the Senior Bowl and that while he played like a late first rounder for the first 12 games of his senior season, momentum is still shifting severely in the wrong direction for him. He is barely six feet and he played poorly in the national championship game. He has been a little bit too erratic this week during passing drills. Tack on the fact he has some past character concerns and it would not surprise me if he fell to the third round.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

I ate a cookie I wasn't supposed to when I was 12. Guess that rules me out for any office jobs in the future.

 

[Fungo Squiggly]

I ate a cookie I wasn't supposed to when I was 12. Guess that rules me out for any office jobs in the future.

If you make restitution by giving back a cookie plus 12 crumbs or interest, forfeit your pee-wee league football trophy, and agree to sit out 2 upcoming intramural basketball games, we may consider reinstating your eligibility.

 

[BUCKYLE]

I ate a cookie I wasn't supposed to when I was 12. Guess that rules me out for any office jobs in the future.

It's not the cookie's fault you're not going to get a good job.

 

[Mothra]

Coaching staff: Tampa Bay Buccaneers

North Roster No. Pos. Name Height Weight School
1 WR Paul Williams 6-2 210 Fresno State Has size, natural receiving skills. Underrated. (late-Day 1 to early-Day 2)
2 WR Aundrae Allison 6-0 197 East Carolina Good hands. Quickness. Athleticism. (late-Day 1 to early-Day 2)
3 QB Tyler Palko 6-1 215 Pittsburgh Works, studies hard. Limited arm strength. (Late rounder)
4 DB Josh Wilson 5-9 188 Maryland Fast and athletic. Great recovery ablility. Return skills. (Round 3 or 4)
5 WR Rhema McKnight 6-1 207 Notre Dame Good hands, concentration. Lacks speed. (mid-Day 2)
5 QB Drew Stanton 6-3 226 Michigan State Good, but not great arm. Erratic. Tough and athletic. (Round 3 or 4)
6 LB Prescott Burgess 6-3 246 Michigan Doesn't wow, but consistently makes plays. (Day 2)
7 WR Brandon Myles 6-1 183 West Virginia Big-play ability. Needs improve routes, consistency. (mid- to late-Day 2)
8 WR David Clowney 6-0 184 Virginia Tech Makes plays with pads on. Productive. (Day 2)
10 QB Troy Smith 6-0 222 Ohio State Keeps plays alive. Good arm. Height issue. Long delivery. (Round 3 or 4)
13 DB Daymeion Hughes 5-10 192 California Great anticipation, hands, instincts. Speed question. (late-Round 1)
16 K Mason Crosby 6-1 214 Colorado Powerful, booming leg. Kicks in any conditions. Great range. (Round 2)
17 DB Marcus McCauley 6-1 200 Fresno State Has physical and athletic skills. Needs to produce more. (Round 2 or 3)
22 DB Josh Gattis 6-1 206 Wake Forest Playmaker, but looked stiff in Mobile. (Round 3 or 4)
23 RB Brian Leonard 6-1 224 Rutgers Jack-of-all-trades player. Runs, catches, blocks. (Round 2)
26 RB Tony Hunt 6-2 239 Penn State Gliding, patient runner. Good blocker. Not explosive. (Round 3 or 4)
28 DB Tanard Jackson 6-0 192 Syracuse Physical, tough, athletic. Average cover skills. (Round 2)
29 DB Leon Hall 5-11 193 Michigan Good all-around corner. Great anticipation, tackler. (mid-Round 1)
30 DB Aaron Rouse 6-4 218 Virginia Tech Big. Physical. Stiff in hips. Coverage question. (Round 3)
31 LB Paul Posluszny 6-1 237 Penn State Productive, smart, instinctive. Lumbers. Coverage question. (Round 3)
32 DB Eric Weddle 5-11 205 Utah Consummate playmaker. Versatile. Tough. Instinctive. (Round 3 or 4)
33 RB Kolby Smith 5-11 214 Louisville All-around RB. Not explosive, but runs, catches, blocks. (Round 5 or 6)
35 RB Thomas Clayton 5-10 220 Kansas State Under the radar. Flashes NFL ability. (mid-Day 2)
36 P Adam Podlesh 5-11 203 Maryland Big leg. Good hang time. Gets ball off quickly. (Round 3 or 4)
43 LB Boo McLee 6-0 239 West Virginia Good college player. Special-teams ability. (Day 2)
44 DE Jay Moore 6-5 275 Nebraska Good quickness. Explosive first step. Works hard. (Round 2 or 3)
45 LB David Harris 6-2 239 Michigan Productive. Great run defender. Questionable in coverage. (Round 3 or 4)
49 DE/LB Anthony Spencer 6-2 266 Purdue Great natural pass-rush ablility. (late-Round 1 to mid-Round 2)
50 OL Doug Datish 6-4 302 Ohio State Some versatility. On the ground too much. (early-Day 2)
51 LB H.B. Blades 5-11 237 Pittsburgh Good in college. Not super instinctive. Gets caught in traffic (Late rounder)
52 DL Brandon Mebane 6-1 304 California Hard worker. Strong. Good leverage. Pushes pocket. (Round 2 or 3)
53 LB Stewart Bradley 6-4 256 Nebraska Good overall player. Versatile OLB. Rarely out of position. (Round 3 or 4)
56 DE LaMarr Woodley 6-1 269 Michigan Relentless. Good rush instincts. (late-Round 1 to mid-Round 2)
61 S Nicholas Leeson 6-1 258 Virginia Tech Deep-snapping ability. (Free agent)
63 OL Manuel Ramirez 6-3 335 Texas Tech Wide body. Takes up space. Lacks quickness. (early- to mid-Day 2)
64 OL Samson Satele 6-2 294 Hawaii Excellent player. Versatile. Tough. Strong. Works hard. (Round 2)
67 OL Levi Brown 6-5 323 Penn State Has all the physical tools. Hard worker. Good intangibles. (mid-Round 1)
68 OL Ryan Harris 6-5 299 Notre Dame Good athlete. Lacked consistency, intensity. (Round 3 or 4)
72 OL James Marten 6-7 303 Boston College Works hard. Decent prospect. Needs to add weight. (early-Day 2)
73 OL Marshal Yanda 6-4 304 Iowa Guard or right tackle. Technically sound. Battles. (Round 3 or 4)
75 OL Josh Beekman 6-2 315 Boston College Versatile. Plays center or guard Tough. Solid and reliable. (Round 3)
76 OL Dan Mozes 6-2 300 West Virginia Good in college. Could be overpowered in NFL. (Late rounder)
80 WR Jason Hill 6-0 204 Washington State Good speed. Needs to improve consistency. (early-Day 2)
81 TE Ben Patrick 6-4 270 Delaware Very underrated. Athletic. Good hands. (Round 3 or 4)
87 TE Scott Chandler 6-7 268 Iowa Excellent pass catcher. Versatile. Questionable blocking ability. (Round 3)
90 DL Quinn Pitcock 6-2 301 Ohio State Limited athletically. Steady, tough, consistent. (Round 3)
91 DL Amobi Okoye 6-2 287 Louisville Awesome quickness, spin move. Enormous ability. (mid-Round 1)
92 DE Adam Carriker 6-6 292 Nebraska Versatile. Long arms. Big frame. Uses hands well. (mid-Round 1)
95 DE Victor Abiamiri 6-4 271 Notre Dame Solid, tough, reliable. Good technique. Not flashy. (Round 2)
97 DL David Patterson 6-2 274 Ohio State Productive. Rotation possibility in NFL. (early- to mid-Day 2)

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[Cornerback6]

Can't get over people slamming Troy because of one game where his receivers got zero seperation from the DBs and his line had the worst blocking game of their lives.

Oh & whose pole is Leon Hall smoking to get this praise? I watched this kid play 4 games this year and he looked ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE in all of them.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

It's not the cookie's fault you're not going to get a good job.

Why I oughta'! :box:

 

[TJnTN]

Can't get over people slamming Troy because of one game where his receivers got zero seperation from the DBs and his line had the worst blocking game of their lives.

Oh & whose pole is Leon Hall smoking to get this praise? I watched this kid play 4 games this year and he looked ABSOLUTELY MISERABLE in all of them.

I agree. I think that's just the way shit goes. If Vince Young and Texas had a game like we did in the NC game the media isn't all over his nuts. I can remember them talking about how his throwing mechanics were poor, etc. One game doesn't make or break a player except for in the media's eyes.

 

[king rhabuf]

troy smith has a tremendous arm, no ones debating that.

the real concern for him is his ability to see the field with his height. a lot of plays were designed for him to roll out and see the field.
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[Cornerback6]

troy smith has a tremendous arm, no ones debating that.​

the real concern for him is his ability to see the field with his height. a lot of plays were designed for him to roll out and see the field.​

I think Troy did ok in the pocket when he threw his 30 tds behind a line that averaged 6'6" don't you?...let alone a left side that has two 6'8" players. This is probably what slays me the most. He's been throwing behind these guys for years and I don't care what anyone says, I'm sure he's used to it by now. I hope Troy succeeds big time in the NFL and 6'5" Brandy Quinn flops like a Ryan Leaf clone.

 

[daddyphatsacs]

I hope Troy succeeds big time in the NFL and 6'5" Brandy Quinn flops like a Ryan Leaf clone.

I too hope Troy Smith prospers in the NFL, but I don't want to see Quinn flop. He's a native Ohio boy, and quite honestly, I take pride in seeing Ohio guys do well in the NFL. Plus, I'm really not the type who roots for kids to fail, especially when he carries himself well in public.

 

[Jeffcat]

troy smith has a tremendous arm, no ones debating that.​

the real concern for him is his ability to see the field with his height. a lot of plays were designed for him to roll out and see the field.​

the OSU offensive line's average height is larger than most of the NFL rosters.....



.....that being said the NC game performance really hurts him in any eyes draftwise. like any NFL QB he is going to need a line and WRs to throw to if he wants to be good. he has the tools like mobility and an arm to do well, all he needs is a system and supporting cast to boot. if he gets that he will do good-great.......end of story.

 

[king rhabuf]

I think Troy did ok in the pocket when he threw his 30 tds behind a line that averaged 6'6" don't you?...let alone a left side that has two 6'8" players. This is probably what slays me the most. He's been throwing behind these guys for years and I don't care what anyone says, I'm sure he's used to it by now. I hope Troy succeeds big time in the NFL and 6'5" Brandy Quinn flops like a Ryan Leaf clone.

quinn has franchise QB written all over him.

 

[jwinslow]

quinn has franchise QB written all over him.

Yeah, he'd be a brilliant fit in Oakland. I mean Quinn has done so well when his blocking is sub-par, right? :atom: (LSU 06, UCLA 06, UM 06, OSU 05, etc.)

Quinn has some nice tools, but you better have a good franchise around him first.

 

[king rhabuf]

the OSU offensive line's average height is larger than most of the NFL rosters.....

did he not roll out a lot this year? rolling out of the pocket lets him see the field.

on the 3rd day of practice, he threw 3 int's. I've been hearing hes a 3rd rounder now, which seems to low for me.