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I don't believe that.. especially since I lived the vast majority of my life in Ohio
and when talking to folks back there about my kids.. and mentioned my daughter at Rutgers
many had that perception 10 years ago
Now that folks are aware they are in the B1G, that mistaken perception may be getting fixed
otherwise I'm just lying
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Buckeye Maniac
Legend
I have also never heard anyone refer to Rutgers as Ivy level. In fact, for a long time I had the idea that Rutgers was an absolute shit school. I was quite surprised when I found that they're B1G level.
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Fine.. heads in the sand.. FWIW Rutgers acceptance rate is less than 34%...
"Rutgers University-New Brunswick has been ranked 33rd among the world’s top 1,000 universities this year by the Center for World University Rankings – marking a dramatic rise in the ranking of the university’s flagship campus.
Rutgers-New Brunswick also ranked 24th among the 229 U.S. universities that the center included in the world’s top 1,000.
This is the third year that the center has published its rankings. Rutgers rose 10 places in the worldwide rankings this year, up from 43rd last year and 72nd in 2012. It rose six places in the U.S. rankings, from 30th last year and 49th in 2012. The rankings place Rutgers ahead of nine Big Ten peers, including Penn State, Ohio State and Purdue."
"Rutgers University-New Brunswick has been ranked 33rd among the world’s top 1,000 universities this year by the Center for World University Rankings – marking a dramatic rise in the ranking of the university’s flagship campus.
Rutgers-New Brunswick also ranked 24th among the 229 U.S. universities that the center included in the world’s top 1,000.
This is the third year that the center has published its rankings. Rutgers rose 10 places in the worldwide rankings this year, up from 43rd last year and 72nd in 2012. It rose six places in the U.S. rankings, from 30th last year and 49th in 2012. The rankings place Rutgers ahead of nine Big Ten peers, including Penn State, Ohio State and Purdue."
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DiamondBuck
Football is 100% physical, 100% mental.
The link you provided gives a different albeit respectable ranking for Rutgers. CWUR 2015 - World University Rankings have Rutgers 50th, right behind #49 Ohio State. Both are ranked lower than Mich, NW, Purdue, Ill, Wisc. Minny and PSU.
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Muck
Enjoy Every Sandwich
My composite rankings are a couple of years out of date now but the CWUR was one those included. How Rutgers stacks up against the rest of the B1G using the composite (overall rank is among BCS schools only):
5 TSUN B1G 1478.3170
6 Northwestern B1G 1448.2992
7 Wisconsin B1G 1439.5768
11 Illinois B1G 1347.2772
12 Minnesota B1G 1324.4986
14 Ohio State B1G 1279.9604
17 Penn St. B1G 1244.4596
19 Purdue B1G 1207.5002
24 Maryland B1G 1179.3163
25 Sparty B1G 1160.4773
29 Rutgers B1G 1077.6217
31 Indiana B1G 1030.1616
32 Iowa B1G 1029.0647
67 Nebraska B1G 612.3348
5 TSUN B1G 1478.3170
6 Northwestern B1G 1448.2992
7 Wisconsin B1G 1439.5768
11 Illinois B1G 1347.2772
12 Minnesota B1G 1324.4986
14 Ohio State B1G 1279.9604
17 Penn St. B1G 1244.4596
19 Purdue B1G 1207.5002
24 Maryland B1G 1179.3163
25 Sparty B1G 1160.4773
29 Rutgers B1G 1077.6217
31 Indiana B1G 1030.1616
32 Iowa B1G 1029.0647
67 Nebraska B1G 612.3348
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You're all making my point.. Rutgers is a very respectable school
College rankings vary every year and each magazine has its own criteria
and to get back to my MAIN initial point
the arrogance of the professors and lack of compassion for the students
are keys to this incident with Flood
College rankings vary every year and each magazine has its own criteria
and to get back to my MAIN initial point
the arrogance of the professors and lack of compassion for the students
are keys to this incident with Flood
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Don't think NJ-Buckeye said he thought it was Ivy League, rather Rutgers own academic staff and some east coast types think of themselves as being Ivy League.
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Well, if you don't believe me.. that when I talked to my homies across the lands and especially my Ohio friends
when my middle child was considering colleges (2003)... and decided on Rutgers...
that DOZENS.. thought Rutgers was Ivy league.. then it is what it is...
folks out here knew it wasn't.. but the more midwest they were.. the more the misperception
that's OK.. haters gonna hate... I get it
my OSU graduate probably feels the same way
when he was looking (1999) and saw the two schools were often neck and neck he had a knapition too
but he went to HS at Archbishop Hoban (ya know Sibley, Clark).. so he'd already decided
PS if you draw a circle around the Ivy schools... Rutgers and Columbia are smack in the middle...
Princeton was initially called The College of New Jersey... but they wanted to be a private religious school so that name then went down the road 15 miles.. to Rutgers University aka The State University of New Jersey
just tryin to make you guys a bit more worldly
Reminds me of a story... when I worked in Akron ... me and my heavyweight boss were meeting with ad agencies in Manhattan.. he pounded the desk and screamed
"are you so fucking stupid that you think everyone west of the Hudson River is a fucking Indian"
when my middle child was considering colleges (2003)... and decided on Rutgers...
that DOZENS.. thought Rutgers was Ivy league.. then it is what it is...
folks out here knew it wasn't.. but the more midwest they were.. the more the misperception
that's OK.. haters gonna hate... I get it
my OSU graduate probably feels the same way
when he was looking (1999) and saw the two schools were often neck and neck he had a knapition too
but he went to HS at Archbishop Hoban (ya know Sibley, Clark).. so he'd already decided
PS if you draw a circle around the Ivy schools... Rutgers and Columbia are smack in the middle...
Princeton was initially called The College of New Jersey... but they wanted to be a private religious school so that name then went down the road 15 miles.. to Rutgers University aka The State University of New Jersey
just tryin to make you guys a bit more worldly
Reminds me of a story... when I worked in Akron ... me and my heavyweight boss were meeting with ad agencies in Manhattan.. he pounded the desk and screamed
"are you so fucking stupid that you think everyone west of the Hudson River is a fucking Indian"
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I work with 2 people who went to Rutgers (one on athletic scholarship). I live 1 state over. I've never heard anybody who mentioned Rutgers with anywhere near the regard that would suggest "most folks actually have a perception Rutgers is Ivy League."
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ORD_Buckeye
Wrong glass, Sir.
I doubt that. I've known a lot of university professors, and they are all extremely tuned in to the higher education pecking order. No professor outside of Rutgers thinks Rutgers is an Ivy League school.
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Jagdaddy
Head Coach
I think he was saying that loads of professors at many universities think that their employer is more prestigious than it is, not that they think that way about Rutgers. I agree with your second sentence in either case.
I googled a bit, and this Rutgers as an Ivy thing appears to go back to the fact that it's one of nine pre-American Revoution colonial colleges, along with seven of the eight Ivies (Cornell was founded about the same time as Ohio State and actually has land grant components) and that back in 1792 they "rejected an invitation to be an Ivy" (a Rutgers interpretation) by not merging with Princeton. That said, until yesterday I've never heard of anyone thinking or claiming that Rutgers is an Ivy. I actually suspect that must people outside of the NYC and Philly metropolitan areas and NJ, don't even realize that it's the flagship public university of NJ. None of which, of course, means that it isn't a very good school on par with its Big Ten peers.
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