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jlb1705;2240688; said:
yeah. pretty sure thats it. and we like getting kicked in the junk apparently.
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Wait, why is there a 2013 thread already?! None of us will be left, unless we can all pack into tibor's doomsday bunker!
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I want BJ Upton. Centerfielder and he would probably hit 40+ homers at GABP.
Don't resign Ludwick to spend more on Upton. Bring up Hamilton to play Left and put Upton in center.
Make it so!
Don't resign Ludwick to spend more on Upton. Bring up Hamilton to play Left and put Upton in center.
Make it so!
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Jt4prez
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Bestbuck36;2247139; said:
Upton is basically Stubbs with more power. He doesn't get on base, he strikes out a ton and he is very streaky; probably more so than Stubbs(this could be argued since Stubbs has been mired in a streak of horrible play, which has lasted for 2 straight seasons). Upton would be an upgrade over Stubbs, but not the upgrade the Reds need. Beside that, on a team with little payroll flexibility, the money makes the move unrealistic. It would probably cost more than 7 mill/yr, over the course of 4 yrs or more, to get Upton, while Stubbs is locked up for probably under 2 mill. this season.
Unfortunately we're probably stuck with Stubbs in CF for another season, unless somehow the free agent market for CF's collapses. Billy Hamilton should not see the majors until September next season, if at all.
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TooTallMenardo;2247409; said:
If they can afford an extra 5-6MM per for 4-5 years they would be getting a 2 WAR improvement minimum, no question about it.
It just comes down to the $, personally I don't see it happening.
I see at least 1 more season of Warren unless Hamilton just explodes.
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Honor&Glory
Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
I hate these mother fuckers!!!
(too soon??)
(too soon??)
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Per Cameron at Fangraphs the top 3 FA CF and his estimated contracts
BJ Upton 4years/52 MM
Angel Pagan 3/30
Victorino 3/30
Warren is going to cost about 2MM this year.
I have no idea what kind of financial room they have but in terms of years, 3-4 buys you a bridge to Hamilton and some insurance in case he doesn't pan out. If money were no object, I'd sure as shit rather spend 52MM on BJ Upton than 30MM on Victorino.
I fully expect another year of listening to "franks and beans" as Warren walks back to the dugout after a K 200+ times for the Reds.
Please blue baby jesus let Hamilton be able to OBP .330+ at the MLB level.
BJ Upton 4years/52 MM
Angel Pagan 3/30
Victorino 3/30
Warren is going to cost about 2MM this year.
I have no idea what kind of financial room they have but in terms of years, 3-4 buys you a bridge to Hamilton and some insurance in case he doesn't pan out. If money were no object, I'd sure as shit rather spend 52MM on BJ Upton than 30MM on Victorino.
I fully expect another year of listening to "franks and beans" as Warren walks back to the dugout after a K 200+ times for the Reds.
Please blue baby jesus let Hamilton be able to OBP .330+ at the MLB level.
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Jaxbuck;2248016; said:
Warren is so bad that they could go cheap, get somebody outside of those top three guys and still get improvement... not that I think they'll sack up and do that either.
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scott91575
Resident hater
jlb1705;2248027; said:
Those aren't really the top 3 guys since he leaves out Bourn and Hamilton for reasons I won't get into. Yet I digress...
The other guys besides those 5 are Juan Pierre, Grady Sizemore, and Melky Cabrera.
Juan Pierre - Maybe if they could get him rather cheap and if he is willing to platoon. He is just beyond brutal vs. lefties, and his defense is mediocre to poor. Yet a platoon with Stubbs would be an upgrade.
Grady Sizemore - Unless he came really cheap and a 1 year deal, no thanks. He just can't stay healthy, and when he does play he has sucked. Might be worth a risk to see if he can get back his old form. It's not like him sucking would be any worse than Stubbs.
Melky - He will come cheap, and again, if he sucks it's not like even before PED's he was worse than Stubbs. Yet he is a pretty crappy CFer though, and I doubt Dusty would play him there due to that fact. Add in the other stuff, and I don't think the Reds go after him unless they get desperate for a LFer.
So there you have it. Take your pick. If I missed anyone, let me know.
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Reds fan: Well judge I've always wanted to be a fan of a good team but we've got a functional retard in CF and no money to do anything about it.scott91575;2248019; said:
JS: Yeah, well baseball needs Reds fans too.
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