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Gatorubet;1264569; said:
Because our teams are put together with the knowledge that they will have to win tough conference games in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, M*ch*gan, and Ohio, occasionally Iowa.
That is a thing I think TSUN fans are ignoring about RR's "system". We'll see. What's going to happen if it snows the day before The Game this year?
Hell, in a year or two, B10 teams will have to play outside in Minnessota, some even in November. You don't think that changes at leas a bit, the type of players we recruit?
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Cold never rendered me helpless in the cold or snow as long as I hand a blanket to put down first. :pGatorubet;1264629; said:
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Gatorubet;1264629; said:
Sorry to answer your question with a question, but fuck it...
Do you think Florida would run the same spread/different sets in Columbus in the snow?
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I always figured the sec worried that 'slow' was contagious, so they went decades without leaving their region.
It's either that or risking too much outside measuring. The margin is way too slim against the 810 as it is, at home, during the second season of bowls. Traveling to camp Randall or beaver stadium in late fall would not be a very safe trip.
Georgia went 50 years without leaving (near) home, to play lowly Arizona St. Pretty sure erickson wasn't there when it was scheduled, but not very ballsy either way.
I applaud the few that do, like Tenn, suburb and others, though they have faired poorly far away from home. Makes you wonder how they'd do in Toronto, Boston or minneapolis for their bowl games, even indoors.
As for cold weather, what would be the odds that auburn's O scores at all in happy valley in late November? That would be an interesting line
It's either that or risking too much outside measuring. The margin is way too slim against the 810 as it is, at home, during the second season of bowls. Traveling to camp Randall or beaver stadium in late fall would not be a very safe trip.
Georgia went 50 years without leaving (near) home, to play lowly Arizona St. Pretty sure erickson wasn't there when it was scheduled, but not very ballsy either way.
I applaud the few that do, like Tenn, suburb and others, though they have faired poorly far away from home. Makes you wonder how they'd do in Toronto, Boston or minneapolis for their bowl games, even indoors.
As for cold weather, what would be the odds that auburn's O scores at all in happy valley in late November? That would be an interesting line
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kinch
Wash me
And here we have the only benefit of living in NYC. When discussing college football or Ohio State, the typical response is: "Ohio State, they have a good team, right?"
Almost nobody gives a damn about college football here, and the few that do (all transplants) are so happy to find the rare person who cares that they spend their time flattering the program of whomever they meet.
I watch my games with two people that actually care about their team, and others who like the sport. The two friends with schools they cheer for are graduates of Florida State and Boston College, and we make strange bedfellows. Or not bedfellows, you know, but, what I mean is, we make an interesting group. Nevermind.
Almost nobody gives a damn about college football here, and the few that do (all transplants) are so happy to find the rare person who cares that they spend their time flattering the program of whomever they meet.
I watch my games with two people that actually care about their team, and others who like the sport. The two friends with schools they cheer for are graduates of Florida State and Boston College, and we make strange bedfellows. Or not bedfellows, you know, but, what I mean is, we make an interesting group. Nevermind.
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Is there more 'sniping' between same-state fanbases? Sure, but it's much easier to deal with that than rivals on the same footing (unlike Georgia Tech). Tech has two top-10 finishes in 40 years (#2, #8).
They have very successful super bowls in Detroit, Indianapolis, and would do the same in Chicago, and elsewhere.
One study/projection I'd find interesting... b10 fans travel as well as any group in america. Would pac-10 fans travel to Chicago for the rose bowl like b10 fans do to tempe? How about southern fans, if those florida bowls were moved to detroit, indy, etc?
ACC fans struggle with traveling to their CCG, let alone a bowl bid.
The old orange bowl was 'safe'? Really?BigWoof31;1264434; said:
They have very successful super bowls in Detroit, Indianapolis, and would do the same in Chicago, and elsewhere.
One study/projection I'd find interesting... b10 fans travel as well as any group in america. Would pac-10 fans travel to Chicago for the rose bowl like b10 fans do to tempe? How about southern fans, if those florida bowls were moved to detroit, indy, etc?
ACC fans struggle with traveling to their CCG, let alone a bowl bid.
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BigWoof31
"Barkin' up the wrong tree"
MililaniBuckeye;1264552; said:
There are so many errors in this claim and logic-chain I don't know where to begin.
I am granting you the fact that a southern or western school would struggle to adjust to the cold weather and it would effect play.
However - you do not explain how Ohio State (or any Big 10 team) is at a disadvantage when playing in warm weather. You've won Rose Bowls in the past right? 2002...in the desert right? 2003...the same desert right? 2004...indoors in San Antonio right? 2005...back to the desert correct? You went to Austin last August and won correct?
Using your logic. Ohio State is at a significant and measurable disadvantage by playing in 75 degree weather or indoors and that is simply false. I reject that.
Again - just come right out and say it.
You want to play in an environment where your team is at an advantage. That's fine, I don't blame you for it.
But I will call you out when you say a team from one conference has an advantage over another conference in mild weather when history says you are simply WRONG.
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Absolutely. But I'd settle for eliminating the sizeable advantages in place based on location. The weather talk is overstated a bit, but there would be trouble in the snow with 1 week to prepare, and about 48 hours in the climate.
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BigWoof31
"Barkin' up the wrong tree"
jwinslow;1264705; said:
I think you're right - as I've conceded earlier.
But I also think the issue wouldn't be as aggressively pursued by Buckeye nation in say 2003 after the Fiesta Bowl domination of K-State and previously, the national championship. And why should it? You'd proven you could whip warm weather teams in warm weather. And you will again.
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Gatorubet
Loathing All Things Georgia
BUCKYLE;1264598; said:
Returning to this post, and disregarding my earlier smart ass reply :p, I can see the schematic difference you would have in a cold weather game (more pound it out running game eliminating turnovers), but help me out with the "put together" comment. What skill set in a current star USC player that you would say, "no thank you - you may be talented enough for August through October, but we have cold weather games and you would be a liability if we offered you?"
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