Real Life CFB Trolls

[jwinslow]

So, are you just going to continue to sidestep the lower-tier teams discussion? I realize it fits your argument better to stick to the top programs, just like making this about OSU-SEC instead of their overall matchups, but I've yet to hear any reasoning on your part besides 'you don't understand' and 'they won, so they can...' (...boast over horrible victories, thanks to achievements they didn't and cannot produce like LSU/UF/etc).

What have the bottom 6-8 teams done to earn bragging rights? Be adjacent to greatness? Is that really all the justification needed?

Please do not try to statistically tell me that the UF-UGA rivalry is not important or heated. We can't even agree on the historical record of wins and losses.

Read my clarifying edit. I'm not claiming there is not important. I'm saying it's awfully comfy for your team, and their success virtually never unhinges your best seasons. That makes it a lot easier to cheer them on.

Michigan isn't hated because they are our natural rival. They are hated because they stole Woody's best friend, turned him against them, and spoiled one of the greatest CFB teams ever, and their chance to repeat. They are hated because they ruined so many title runs under cooper, and even kept JT's 03 squad from waiting in the wings for help.

If OSU's meaningful years in NC contention were like Florida's of the same, it would be a lot easier to root for our bitter rival out of conference.

 

[JCOSU86]

The boasting is leapfrogging off the elite teams to try and share in the greatness, when they've done nothing to earn it themselves, but pretend as though they have.

After each NC loss, we had 20 times more trolls of mediocre SEC programs on this board than those of the winning programs.

I just wanted to make sure this was understood as it hits the nail on the head.
To be fair to Nutria and Gatorubet, this is my MAIN PROBLEM with the SEC and its fans. Trolls from Alabama, Tennesee and others littered our site after both LSU's and Florida's victories. But curiously few from those teams' fans. You simply WILL NOT see that on your boards from Minny and Purdue fans.

 

[Gatorubet]

So I take it at this point you're just going to dodge the topic of lower-tier teams?

What? This is talk like a Pirate Day and Jwin is Wrong All Day too? :p
I ain't dodging nothin' :box:

I realize it fits your argument better to stick to the top programs, just like making this about OSU-SEC instead of their overall match ups, but I've yet to hear any reasoning on your part besides 'you don't understand' and 'they won, so they can...' (...boast over horrible victories, thanks to achievements they didn't and cannot produce like LSU/UF/etc).

I hardly know what to say. I feel that you have some kind of empathy with the success of tOSU football team in their many impressive successful seasons. I assume you feel some pride in the many continuous victories over Meatchicken. You, however, did not one thing to achieve this on field victory. You did not make a tackle nor throw a pass. That said, you have an attachment to a "group". That "group" is the Ohio State University, and the athletic teams that represent the school.

Your linkage to the on-field accomplishments of tOSU football team is roughly equivalent to the linkage of Ole Miss and Kentucky to the on-field accomplishments of LSU and Florida's football squad, that is true.

And yet, nobody would question your pride in the accomplishments of the Buckeye football squad, nor wonder at the bizarreness of chanting O H I O despite your never taking the field. Why is that? It is because the kinship that is the source of the pride is nothing more or less than a feeling of belonging to a group of like minded individuals who share a common love of the same collective entity. You can be an alum or just a fan. You are a fan simply because you have an emotional attachment to the team.

Here, the SEC fans have - in addition to the emotional attachment to their own team - a tremendous pride in their conference and region. Maybe it is the Yankees versus us thing, maybe it is years of suffering second class citizenship at the hands of northeast and Midwest sportswriters and polls that dissed the south. But whatever the reason, it evolved to a point where a large number of people have an attachment to the conference as well as their team. And really, it is no sillier for fans of less successful teams to share in the joy ("take credit" to you) for the elite SEC team's accomplishments than it is more a guy in Dayton who has never attended tOSU, nor any member of his family, to sit in his easy chair and scream for the Bucks while wearing his Beanie jersey.

We have fans of the conference who take pride in the conference. For you to denigrate that relationship is to validate the denigrating of the guy sitting in his chair in Dayton. Because if you say, "well, that is his regional team", then you bless regionalism as a valid excuse for fans adopting the wins of a team in their area. The SEC is our area.

Read my clarifying edit. I'm not claiming there is not important. I'm saying it's awfully comfy for your team, and their success virtually never unhinges your best seasons. That makes it a lot easier to cheer them on.

Like fans of most rivalries, the fact that you beat Michigan ten straight would not eliminate the importance of the rivalry. When I die I will see Lindsey Scott running away from my part of the end zone and crushing my soul. My soul does not give damn about the stats or the passage of time between top ten games.

 

[redbenn]

Maybe it is the Yankees versus us thing,

i've always thought it was this [the sense of conference pride], it is something the south finally has over the north (besides weather)... and only southern folk refer to anyone from the north as a yankee still. :tongue2:

 

[Nutriaitch]

When I die I will see Lindsey Scott running away from my part of the end zone and crushing my soul.

Slightly off topic:

When UGA came to Death Valley in '03, they completed a 93-ish yard screen pass for a game tying TD with only a couple minutes left in the game. The Dawgs sitting in front of me kept saying "Y'all gonna remember this just like UF remembers Lindsey Scott. Lindsey Scott this, Lindsey Scott that, blah blah blah."

Then when Mauck hit Skyler Green in the endzone for the game winner, I told that feller "Tell Lindsey Scott that Skyler Green says hello."

It would be impolite for me to repeat his response in front of women and children.

P.S. Geaux SEC (but Fuck Auburn)

 

[JCOSU86]

Slightly off topic:
Then when Mauck hit Skyler Green in the endzone for the game winner, I told that feller "Tell Lindsey Scott that Skyler Green says hello."

Now THAT'S clever.

 

[cincibuck]

Frankly I'm not seeing much difference in these posts. If you root for OSU you tend to pull for the whole conference in all ooc games. Muck and others refuse to ever root for Michigan, but I firmly believe they are in the minority among OSU fans.

The same holds true for the SEC, Nutriatch being the Muck of the South. All of which makes my point that Big 10 teams are at a disadvantage during the Bowl season because they are ALWAYS playing out of their region.

As for the cheer of SEC, I first experienced it at the NCAA track championships a few years back when LSU and Stanford were duking it out for the crown. Fans from other PAC 10 schools were chanting, "PAC 10, PAC 10, PAC 10." To which the fans of other SEC schools responded with "SEC, SEC, SEC."

Makes perfect sense to me. You want your team to win first, but then you want someone in your conference to win, especially if you can't.