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BigWoof31;1264434; said:
Nonsense.
The system in its current state puts the teams in mild weather vacation destinations where the games can be played in neutral conditions and the fans can enjoy themselves and the event surroundings.

It allows for fair playing conditions, safety of travel (with minimal predicted airport delays), and is situated in towns built for large scale hospitality.

Late fall/winter footbal is meant to be played in the cold, sleet, and snow. Fuck that pansy 75-degree sunny sky shit. Have Georgia and Ohio State play in The Shoe in mid-November with sub-freezing temps.
 
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BUCKYLE;1264458; said:
Football is a fall sport played in outdoor stadiums, for the most part. Big ten teams are built to play in the elements. Not saying SEC schools couldn't by any means. Just that we'll never know, because they rarely, if ever do.

The idea that cold weather kids play better in cold weather environments has some serious holes in the argument.
Mr. Gamble seemed to do just fine for the the Buckeyes and he was from Miami.

On the flip side, Knowshon has excelled for the Dawgs and he never huffs and puffs because of the humidity down here and he is from New Jersey.

If Georgia (god willing) were to play in this years national title game and all of a sudden the event got moved to Lincoln Financial Field in Philly - i'd imagine the only thing that would be done is Richt would take the team up there 4-8 days early to practice in the weather. 18-22 year olds are damn resilient.

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My neutrality argument was based on weather only. Is it fair the Tigers got to play 2 hours form campus for their National Title runs? No, of course not.
But to my knowledge - the only teams whose fan base has trouble showing up is U of Miami. Nebraska travels, Ohio State travels, Georgia travels, Oklahoma travels.

I don't blame the NCAA for putting the games in desireable destinations.

Now - if you want to make the argument that stadium ticket sales should be more equally divided - I'd pat you on the back and hold your coat while you lectured. The ideal that 8-14,000 tickets should be held for local area purchase is crap (and likely accomodated for the 60/40 or 65/35 Tigers to Buckeyes in New Orleans last year). The towns benefit enough from the increase tourism. 5,000 local tickets held is plenty.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1264474; said:
Late fall/winter footbal is meant to be played in the cold, sleet, and snow. Fuck that pansy 75-degree sunny sky shit. Have Georgia and Ohio State play in The Shoe in mid-November with sub-freezing temps.
Fuck that!!!

Football Darwinism has decreed that football is to be played in places where salt goes on tequilla shooters, not on the road.

That having already been decided, quit bringing that outraged buggy-whip manufacturer mentality. :p
 
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another "troll" is my friend from cleveland. his parents are off the boat italians, so he is big into soccer, doesn't like college football. in high school i was really the only buckeye fan out of my friends... but after we graduated and then the 02 championship came everyone was a buckeye fan. my buddy hated this, because of all the bandwagoners, which is understandable. so now he loves callin everytime the buckeyes f up.

he told me a couple weeks ago that he was at a wedding in cleveland, they played 'hang on sloopy,' and he went around the dancefloor doing the 'gator chomp.' he was so proud of himself, and couldn't wait to tell me.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1264474; said:
Late fall/winter footbal is meant to be played in the cold, sleet, and snow. [censored] that pansy 75-degree sunny sky [censored]. Have Georgia and Ohio State play in The Shoe in mid-November with sub-freezing temps.


While I appreciate your sincere enthusiasm - again, I must stress that bowl games are meant to be the culmination of a season and a celebration for fans, teams, coaches, sponsors...etc. They are selected to be party locations only.

I know that Georgia would struggle playing in C-Bus in November, it would be an incredible challange. But on the flip side -Georgia wouldn't be given a landslide advantage if the game was moved to say....the rose bowl, a place equally inaccessible by both teams and fan bases.

Just because the long sleeves come off -doesn't mean the southern teams gain an edge. In fact, that's nonsense.

Why not just come out and say it - "we want to play where it's cold because it increases our chances of winning."
And yet, the counter can't be proven true - that it decreases our chances of winning when the weather is mild or warm.
 
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I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that OSU fans were brought up seeing smashmouth football with physical defenses and three yards and a cloud of dust styles of offense. That type of football and cold weather go hand-in-hand.
 
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Gatorubet;1264513; said:
But aren't you saying that YOU want an advantage?

At least level the playing field?

If it's tOSU vs. USC, play the game at the Sugar Bowl or Orange Bowl. If it's LSU vs. USC, play the game in the North somewhere. If it's LSU vs. Florida, who gives a damn; it's the SEC :biggrin:

Why have the BCS games be pre-determined?
 
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BigWoof31;1264492; said:
I know that Georgia would struggle playing in C-Bus in November, it would be an incredible challange. But on the flip side -Georgia wouldn't be given a landslide advantage if the game was moved to say....the rose bowl, a place equally inaccessible by both teams and fan bases.

Thanks for making my point. The only reason SEC do so well in post season is because they don't have to play in non-ideal weather, whereas Big Ten teams do.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;1264552; said:
Thanks for making my point. The only reason SEC do so well in post season is because they don't have to play in non-ideal weather, whereas Big Ten teams do.

In the post season they aren't playing in non-ideal weather, so that makes no sense.
 
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redbenn;1264449; said:
though i agree with you... i really enjoy going to warm weather bowls... (even though it was warmer in the midwest during the 06 fiesta bowl than it was in AZ)... as much as it would be good for the Big 11, who would want to go to the Skyline Chili Bowl at Paul Brown Stadium?

goddamnit, now i want some skyline

I WOULD!!! It would beat the living shit out of watching the Bengals, but the point is that the NFL has proven over and over again that you CAN play football in the North in January. Maybe you can't play SEC - PAC 10 football in that weather and maybe that's what we need to find out. I'm not saying put the BCS NC game in Columbus or Ann Arbor every year, but every 4th year with a game in the Meadowlands, a game in the south and a game on the coast.
 
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BigWoof31;1264492; said:
Why not just come out and say it - "we want to play where it's warm because it increases our chances of winning."

FIFY. Hey, if you con't own a winter coat and can't stand the thought of brandy in your coffee then get the hell out of the world of football.
 
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