RB Carlos "El Guapo" Hyde (Official Thread)

[Coqui]

If you're looking for a reason why the suspension is 3 games (at least), recall who the Buckeyes play in week 3.

Carlos is missing the trip to California.

Not a huge deal in the regular season, but not nothing.

Especially since all he did was practice his stiff arm.

 

[ulukinatme]

Damn, ever the UM people think it's fair:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=2019&t=11738011

I wouldn't have expected UM to think it's fair, but what I've seen on other boards discussing this is that it's certainly fair or even a little more than expected. I personally guessed it would be 1-2 games, so 3 was certainly over the estimate. It looks like the punishment doesn't necessarily fit the crime, but Urban was most likely making an example of Hyde. By taking a hard stance here he's making a statement to the team which will hopefully prevent bad decisions in the future and keep the roster intact so they can get through what looks to be a great season coming up.

 

[buckeyesin07]

i don't need to read urban meyer's mind. i saw a video of carlos hyde at best pie facing some drunk broad, at worst, pimp handing her. i see a wall at the woody hayes that talks about respecting women.

Bingo. Whatever that video showed, it didn't show anything that I want representing the school I attended and the school I love. I think the punishment should've been more harsh.

 

[Coqui]

I wouldn't have expected UM to think it's fair, but what I've seen on other boards discussing this is that it's certainly fair or even a little more than expected. I personally guessed it would be 1-2 games, so 3 was certainly over the estimate. It looks like the punishment doesn't necessarily fit the crime, but Urban was most likely making an example of Hyde. By taking a hard stance here he's making a statement to the team which will hopefully prevent bad decisions in the future and keep the roster intact so they can get through what looks to be a great season coming up.

Cal boards are thinking he got off lightly

 

[UpNorth_Buckeye]

Cal boards are thinking he got off lightly

Because he'll get back on the team the week AFTER we play them???

 

[heisman]

Because he'll get back on the team the week AFTER we play them???

No, because of the punishment that awaited him from the CAL defense.

 

[AKAK]

Cal boards are thinking he got off lightly

Why, he didn't go all Husqvarna on a tree or anything.

 

[ulukinatme]

No, because of the punishment that awaited him from the CAL defense.

Now that's funny

 

[Coqui]

Why, he didn't go all Husqvarna on a tree or anything.

Because Urban Meyer and Ohio State are corrupt and evil.

He isn't getting charged because she was pressured into not pursuing charges (nevermind the same evidence used would be enough to charge her as well)

And because Urban Meyer does nothing but recruit lawbreakers and Ohio State does nothing but cheat.


I'm paraphrasing a little bit on it, but that's the sentiment.

 

[ysubuck]

I may be wrong but I read that differently. I read it as she has two years to bring up the charges from the date of the incident but since she was interviewed and decided to not pursue the charges the case was closed permamently, thus she hence waived the two year period by stating that she did not want to pursue charges. I may be wrong and you may be right, but that was just how I read it.

She stated that she wasn't bringing charges at this time. Maybe once Carlos gets drafted she'll think about bringing some charges in the hopes of getting paid. People also need to remember that Carlos can also bring charges as she assaulted him as well. In fact, unless I hear otherwise that assault was unprovoked. She clearly swung and made contact first.

If she decides that she wants to try and get a piece of Hyde's first NFL contract then, if I'm him, I counter with everything at my disposal. Fuck her. If it's serious enough in her mind to bring charges then they should be brought right now. Waiting until he signs an NFL deal is nothing but opportunism. And lets not get caught up in, "Oh, I don't want to put my family through this. Buckeye fans are crazy and will make my life a living hell." Bullshit.

I have no problem with the punishment, but Carlos Hyde was not the aggressor here and she is certainly not a victim.

 

[AKAK]

Because Urban Meyer and Ohio State are corrupt and evil.

He isn't getting charged because she was pressured into not pursuing charges (nevermind the same evidence used would be enough to charge her as well)

And because Urban Meyer does nothing but recruit lawbreakers and Ohio State does nothing but cheat.


I'm paraphrasing a little bit on it, but that's the sentiment.

 

[BUCKDUBBS007]

If she brings charges on him at all in the future, he brings them right back on her for hitting first as clearly shown in the video (sarcasm on the clearly part...), the judge hears the case and calls them both silly, throws them in community service jail for having a dumb 3rd grade slappy slap fight and laughs while tweeting about how insanely weak and crybabyish this country has gotten and how he needs a good stiff drink immediately.

 

[AJHawkfan]

Because Urban Meyer and Ohio State are corrupt and evil.

He isn't getting charged because she was pressured into not pursuing charges (nevermind the same evidence used would be enough to charge her as well)

And because Urban Meyer does nothing but recruit lawbreakers and Ohio State does nothing but cheat.


I'm paraphrasing a little bit on it, but that's the sentiment.

That's going to be the general feeling on any/every non-OSU message board you read.

When it was announced that there would be no charges filed, the standard line was that tOSU paid the girl off/pressured her not to press charges, etc, and that Urban would no punish Carlos at all because he doesn't mind his players breaking the law.

then once it was announced that Urban had suspended him for at least 3 games, no one congratulated Urban for making the right move. Instead, they ridiculed him for suspending him for the 3 non-conference games.....

Sometimes you just can't win... instead of shutting their mouths and working to get better, everyone just loves to be the victim and remind everyone else about how evil the other guy is.....

 

[Bucknut24]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN 1m
Urban Meyer: "Our players are taught to walk away, (Hyde's) punishment was because he didn't walk away"

 

[Buckskin86]

Urban Meyer says Carlos Hyde would have been kicked off Ohio State team if charges had been filed
By Doug Lesmerises, The Plain Dealer
July 31, 2013

COLUMBUS, Ohio ? If Carlos Hyde had been charged by Columbus police, he would have been kicked off the Ohio State football team.

That's what OSU coach Urban Meyer told reporters at ESPN today. Meyer and the other Big Ten coaches are making the rounds in Bristol on several shows. Police declined to file charges against Hyde on Tuesday after he had been named as a person of interest in a potential assault at a Columbus nightclub. They closed the case after the alleged victim said she did not want to press charges. Meyer, in a statement, suspended Hyde for three games on Tuesday night. Meyer has not addressed the issue with Ohio media.

In an interview on ESPN's SportsCenter, Meyer said of the Hyde case, ?the average person on the street, from what investigators told me, it's nothing. It's move on, there are no charges, there would be no charges. But it's a high-profile player representing the university.?

So, according to ESPN reporter Brett McMurphy, Hyde's punishment came because he did not walk away from the situation. As seen on surveillance from the club, Hyde gestured at the woman, she reached out in an attempt to strike him and Hyde responded. It's unclear from the tape if anyone was hit.

?Our players are taught to walk away,? Meyer said, according to McMurphy.

Meyer reiterated his zero tolerance for violence toward women and said that any player charged in a domestic violence issue would be dismissed from the team. Hyde was not charged, so Meyer had a decision to make on his punishment.

?I had to be very careful,? Meyer said on SportsCenter. ?I actually talked to several people I have great respect for. I think it's the right decision. We sent a message to our team and we did the right thing.?

http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2013/07/urban_meyer_says_carlos_hyde_w.html