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RB Carlos "El Guapo" Hyde (Official Thread)

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tsteele316;2358521; said:
1. klein was not convicted of domestic violence. he plead to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct charge as the female in the case chose to not pursue charges. a female chose not to pursue charges, in no way was that related to hyde.

2. if storm klein was caught on video like carlos hyde, he would have gotten more than 2 games. why you don't get this is puzzling.
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What's puzzling is your inability to read Meyer's own words. You're trying to read his mind, as opposed to reading his actual words.

Btw, pleading to any crime = conviction of that crime.

Edit: How many more of these do I need to post before people realize that the media has decided Carlos' suspension?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-shows-true-core-values-by-reinstating-rainey
 
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heisman;2358524; said:
What's puzzling is your inability to read Meyer's own words. You're trying to read his mind, as opposed to reading his actual words.

Btw, pleading to any crime = conviction of that crime.

Edit: How many more of these do I need to post before people realize that the media has decided Carlos' suspension?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-shows-true-core-values-by-reinstating-rainey
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i don't need to read urban meyer's mind. i saw a video of carlos hyde at best pie facing some drunk broad, at worst, pimp handing her. i see a wall at the woody hayes that talks about respecting women.

again, storm klein didn't plea to a crime related to violence against women. those charges were dropped. you're simply whining to whine as your comparison simply doesn't work.
 
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heisman;2358524; said:
What's puzzling is your inability to read Meyer's own words. You're trying to read his mind, as opposed to reading his actual words.

Btw, pleading to any crime = conviction of that crime.

Edit: How many more of these do I need to post before people realize that the media has decided Carlos' suspension?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-shows-true-core-values-by-reinstating-rainey
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I think some people are respectfully choosing to disagree with you, as is their right. Honestly - it's over. Time to move on and get ready for the season, no need to re-hash the situation. I don't think you are going to change anyone's mind, as they aren't going to change yours.
 
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Oh8ch;2358430; said:
20 year old kid with a bit of alcohol in his system gets slapped. The first thing he does is think "What were Urban's rules again? How close is the season? How hard have I worked?"

It doesn't work that way.

If there was a delay between the slap and his action I would have a different opinion. If there were any clear evidence of an intent to cause harm I would have a different opinion.

I am an old man and not hitting women is ingrained in my bones. But if I got slapped out of nowhere I can't promise my amygdala wouldn't get the jump on my frontal cortex.

Not saying he wasn't in the wrong. But there are degrees of things.

I hope my fate never depends on interpretation of a Rorschach video.
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Calling that a Rorschach video is perfect.

heisman;2358472; said:
It's a sham. Urban succumbed to media pressure to make a point. Would you like me to list the punishments his players have received in the past vs. the crimes they've committed? How about a similar list with Tressel in charge? I can't think of any other punishment to an OSU player when no crime was committed or drug test failed.
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Find a case at ANY of Urban's stops where a player laid his hands on a woman and didn't miss games.

Until you find that, just stop. What you are trying so desperately and pathetically to imply is precisely the opposite of what everyone else is inferring.
 
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BuckNut65;2358453; said:
For a non-distraction, recent events involving OSU players were a popular topic at the recent Big 10 media event as well as as with our buds at ESPN...
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Fremont Buckeye;2358460; said:
If it was not a distraction then why did UM answer like 12 of 15 questions on discipline issues. I'm as much of a die hard tOSU fan as the next person is, but I can take the blinders off and be realistic.
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UFM was getting inundated with non-football related questions (Aaron Hernandez, etc.) and having his approach to discipline questioned well before this, not to mention the fact that shit involving Roby, Baugh, and Gardner also played into those questions.

The Hyde situation could've easily been blown into lead-story shit for days on end (ala TatGate) by none-other-than-E$P!N and other hack networks, but it wasn't. I watched SportsCenter (so sue me) twice last night and not once was the Hyde situation even mentioned and it didn't even appear on the scroller. In fact, right now the suspension announcement is the ninth of eleven minor "headlines" bullets on E$P!N's home page...hardly big news.

You think his teammates are thinking about Hyde when they're working out, going to class, etc.? Nope. That's why I say it's not near the overall distraction many are making it out to be.
 
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1. Keeps Hyde from getting injured during the first 3 games (remember Wells' foot?)
2. Builds RB depth.
3. I am quite tired and watched the video haphazardly a couple times, and decided it was hard to see what happened. I have no idea. I am moving on.
 
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At first, I was disappointed to see Hyde suspended at all, but I can see why UFM did suspend him. But three games seemed at little weird...I had expected two games. Three games isn't some arbitrary number he pulled out of his ass...there's definately a reason for this number. He had to address the issue of off-field conduct and "sending a message", while at the same time making sure he did not do big damage our chances at a national title run. Three games is more than what many--if not most--expected, so not many can overly criticize his decision. At the same time, Hyde is back for an easy break-in game against an FCS team to get ready for the conference opener against Wisconsin, which is always an extremely physical game. If we were playing Minnesota, Indiana, or Illinois at home in the opener, then I think Meyer would have issued a four-game suspension instead of three.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2358558; said:
You think his teammates are thinking about Hyde when they're working out, going to class, etc.? Nope. That's why I say it's not near the overall distraction many are making it out to be.
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So you have talked to Hyde's teammates to get their exact feelings?

Plus any member of the football team is going to tell anybody who asks that it is not a distraction, what else are they going to say. It is not a major distraction like you said, but it is a distraction nonetheless and UM said he hated distractions (not specifying between large or small).
 
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In a Div ! football program the HC is judge and jury. He makes the rules and is open to enforcing them any way HE wants. Each case is different ..this suspension is not made in a vacuum, Urban may be adding or subtracting from thus suspension for something Hyde has done before we have no knowledge of. Trust Urban.
 
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TDunk;2358550; said:
The one thing that seems to be overlooked is that fact that she can still bring up charges within the next two years (per CPD statement).
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I may be wrong but I read that differently. I read it as she has two years to bring up the charges from the date of the incident but since she was interviewed and decided to not pursue the charges the case was closed permamently, thus she hence waived the two year period by stating that she did not want to pursue charges. I may be wrong and you may be right, but that was just how I read it.

:oh:
 
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