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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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OH10;1969456; said:
If he's not eligible for the supp draft, I think its clear that someone either in the NCAA or ESPN had an influence on the decision. They want him to talk about his transgressions at OSU, and to TP's credit, he doesn't seem inclined to give them the satisfaction.
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I don't know what the hold up is, but I'd be surprised to find out that the NFL gave two s**** about what the NCAA thought about all that. They want $$$ and viewers. Anything that prevents the NFL from getting more of that that is not something I see them supporting.
 
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OH10;1969456; said:
If he's not eligible for the supp draft, I think its clear that someone either in the NCAA or ESPN had an influence on the decision. They want him to talk about his transgressions at OSU, and to TP's credit, he doesn't seem inclined to give them the satisfaction.
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I think this all could be part of Goodells trying to clean up the image of the NFL issue. The thing is that with OSU distancing themselves from TP, all criteria per the NFL would have been met for his allowance to enter into the supplemental draft per their own rule book. The NFL really wouldnt have a leg to stand on in court if this did happen, without having to change the rules themselves about entrance requirements for the supplemental draft.
 
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OH10;1969456; said:
If he's not eligible for the supp draft, I think its clear that someone either in the NCAA or ESPN had an influence on the decision. They want him to talk about his transgressions at OSU, and to TP's credit, he doesn't seem inclined to give them the satisfaction.
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I don't think the NFL cares about ESPN or the NCAA. If he's not declared eligible it's going to be more likely that he couldn't prove to the NFL that his situation is different than Devier Posey, Boom Herron etc.
 
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Pheasant;1969464; said:
I don't think the NFL cares about ESPN or the NCAA. If he's not declared eligible it's going to be more likely that he couldn't prove to the NFL that his situation is different than Devier Posey, Boom Herron etc.
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Well, since Posey, Herron, etc. were not suspended for the full 2011 season, nor were any of them told not to have any contact with the university for 5 years, I would have to say that proving Terrelle's situation is different is pretty damn easy.
 
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buxfan4life;1969465; said:
Well, since Posey, Herron, etc. were not suspended for the full 2011 season, nor were any of them told not to have any contact with the university for 5 years, I would have to say that proving Terrelle's situation is different is pretty damn easy.
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That he was suspended immediately after the NFL originally ruled him ineligible is probably what's slowing down the process. I think he's going to have to prove his suspension was because of NCAA sanctions/impending sanctions.
There seemed to have been a consensus on the board that the original allegations of the tat 5 and Tressel's inaction are the only NCAA violations awaiting sentencing. If that's the case please prove to me why Pryor is suspended the whole season, and not just 5 games.
 
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Maybe the NFL doesn't want college players taking impermissible benefits with the thought in their head that if they get caught, they will just apply for the supplemental draft. This could be influential to Juniors who have to decide to enter the draft or come back for their senior season. If a booster offered money for the player to come back, the player may be more tempted to skip the main draft and keep the supplemental as a back-up. He even could leak his own benefits to the press to get himself declared ineligible by the NCAA in time to play in the NFL in the fall.
 
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sammyjenkis;1969467; said:
Maybe the NFL doesn't want college players taking impermissible benefits with the thought in their head that if they get caught, they will just apply for the supplemental draft. This could be influential to Juniors who have to decide to enter the draft or come back for their senior season. If a booster offered money for the player to come back, the player may be more tempted to skip the main draft and keep the supplemental as a back-up. He even could leak his own benefits to the press to get himself declared ineligible by the NCAA in time to play in the NFL in the fall.
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Or like I said, just have sex with your fiance at BYU. If that gets you eligible for the supplemental draft - I fail to see why TP should not be eligible too. You cannot say TP was acting intentionally to get himself kicked out of school while the Cougar was not.
 
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Pheasant;1969466; said:
That he was suspended immediately after the NFL originally ruled him ineligible is probably what's slowing down the process. I think he's going to have to prove his suspension was because of NCAA sanctions/impending sanctions.
There seemed to have been a consensus on the board that the original allegations of the tat 5 and Tressel's inaction are the only NCAA violations awaiting sentencing. If that's the case please prove to me why Pryor is suspended the whole season, and not just 5 games.
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Pryor after college has no compulsion to talk to the ncaa.

had he not left, the ncaa could rule him ineligible if he doesn't talk.

Pryor was definitely facing more alleged violations than the others. Since he left and the powerless ncaa has no way to make him talk, then those other issues are abandoned without evidence and proof.
 
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Pheasant;1969466; said:
That he was suspended immediately after the NFL originally ruled him ineligible is probably what's slowing down the process. I think he's going to have to prove his suspension was because of NCAA sanctions/impending sanctions.
There seemed to have been a consensus on the board that the original allegations of the tat 5 and Tressel's inaction are the only NCAA violations awaiting sentencing. If that's the case please prove to me why Pryor is suspended the whole season, and not just 5 games.
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He was never "ruled ineligible" for the supp draft, at least not yet. The speculation over his eligibility in NCAA is what lead OSU to end such speculation.
Terrelle was personally asked by Coach Tressel to publicly make a statement prior to the Sugar Bowl stating that he would be sitting out the game because he didn't deserve to play. Pryor's situation was a lot different/worse than that of the other players suspended for 5 games. I don't think we'll ever fully know the extent of it and I'm not sure I would want to know.
However, it seems like the NFL truly wants to know (or at least wants to make sure the NCAA knows) and is dragging its feet. Almost like blackmail. At least that's my take.
 
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Gatorubet;1969446; said:
Opinions on how he handled his off the field business aside, anyone who saw TP on Gruden's QB camp show got to see how polished and knowledgeable he was in his discussion with Gruden. He clearly had a firm grasp of the strategy and terminology (and reading defenses) required to be a success in the NFL - at least if what we saw on the show was representative of his skills. He had an air of confidence that shows something of his leadership qualities and his demeanor in the huddle.
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Not sure if sarcasm...

One of Gruden's questions to TP was, "What is an audible?" I hope the NFL is a little more complicated than that.
 
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Pheasant;1969466; said:
That he was suspended immediately after the NFL originally ruled him ineligible is probably what's slowing down the process. I think he's going to have to prove his suspension was because of NCAA sanctions/impending sanctions.
There seemed to have been a consensus on the board that the original allegations of the tat 5 and Tressel's inaction are the only NCAA violations awaiting sentencing. If that's the case please prove to me why Pryor is suspended the whole season, and not just 5 games.
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If you have to ask, then you have not been following this saga at all. We are talking about Terrelle only, not the Univsersity. It was even quoted as much from the Plain Dealer in this very thread (here):

Pryor didn't exit on the toe of interim coach Luke Fickell's shoe, but it was close. He also left before the NCAA judges handed down a punishment for his allegedly epic role in OSU's series of scandals, a penalty that conceivably would have rivaled the one-year suspension handed down to coach Jim Tressel's first OSU star, Maurice Clarett.
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And jwins explained the rest below.

jwinslow;1969473; said:
Pryor after college has no compulsion to talk to the ncaa.

had he not left, the ncaa could rule him ineligible if he doesn't talk.

Pryor was definitely facing more alleged violations than the others. Since he left and the powerless ncaa has no way to make him talk, then those other issues are abandoned without evidence and proof.
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Indeed the NFL is dragging ass for some presently unknown reason and it's not fair to Terrelle regardless of what he may have done. The NFL should make a decision yes or no. Not draw it out till it's too late for him to give teams a legitimate chance to look at him even if they rule him eligible.
 
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