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QB/WR Terrelle Pryor ('10 Rose, '11 Sugar MVP)

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JBaney45;1909375; said:
But can he? What if the NCAA determined he sold such things "above market price". Maybe his mom sells her car and gets one or two thousand more for it then it would "normally be valued in the market" from some person who happens to be an Ohio State alumni? Couldn't that be interpreted as an "extra benefit"?
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It is fine as long as it is sold at fair market price. If not, it would be an extra benefit, and certainly if an alumni of tOSU was behind it, a really big problem.

We need some older SMU fans to give us a better idea of how it is done. :p
 
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Gatorubet;1909217; said:
I don't think it's ever been established how many things were sold over how many months/years. Maybe it's better not to have TP sit one game for every separate violation? I'm guessing they used the A.J. Green template for the generic penalty duration, and added one game because it looks like it has been going on for years.

But yeah - smoking a joint versus selling your jersey does present a valid question about the relative seriousness of the two violations. Unfortunately, when you agree to play division I football you agree to abide by the NCAA rules. You are certainly free not to play college ball - nobody is forcing you - and you can sell all of your [Mark May] any time you want and simply show up at NFL try outs.
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Seriously, just shut the fuck up on the topic. You clearly don't know what the fuck you're talking about, so you speculate.

Terrelle got the extra game for not being forthcoming when he had the chance, not for several years of selling shit. As much as you claim to have read on the subject, I'm surprised you skipped that information.
 
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SloopyHangOn;1909518; said:
FTFY
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Clever! That took quite a bit of thought, I'm sure.

I've actually been at work for over an hour and awake since 3:30a.m., and quite frankly, I'm tired of gator posting in every thread that has a damn thing to do with the situation, spewing his fucking opinion all over the place, without, apparently, reading a fucking thing.
 
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BUCKYLE;1909516; said:
Seriously, just shut the [censored] up on the topic. You clearly don't know what the [censored] you're talking about, so you speculate.

Terrelle got the extra game for not being forthcoming when he had the chance, not for several years of selling [Mark May]. As much as you claim to have read on the subject, I'm surprised you skipped that information.
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Seems like much of the dialog about the 5 game stems from the fact that many people logically assume that AJ Green didn't actually self report his violation...but rather the school reported. So it seems disingenous to suggest that the Tat 5 get an extra game because they didn't report it. Now, I know that's the NCAAs stance on it and that's what they've stated as the reason for the extra game, but it's just confusing because I don't think anyone here or anywhere else believes that AJ Green just walked into compliance and said, "Hey, I did this...you'd better report me."
 
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matcar;1909572; said:
Seems like much of the dialog about the 5 game stems from the fact that many people logically assume that AJ Green didn't actually self report his violation...but rather the school reported. So it seems disingenous to suggest that the Tat 5 get an extra game because they didn't report it. Now, I know that's the NCAAs stance on it and that's what they've stated as the reason for the extra game, but it's just confusing because I don't think anyone here or anywhere else believes that AJ Green just walked into compliance and said, "Hey, I did this...you'd better report me."
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No. He was asked and admitted. tOSU players were asked and lied.
 
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BUCKYLE;1909579; said:
No. He was asked and admitted. tOSU players were asked and lied.
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plus the jersey AJ Green sold wasn't even his...at least that is my understanding. The athletic department asked for it back from him so they could sell it in a charity auction and he couldn't produce it. it's not like he had a choice to lie...he had to give them the jersey back. Lucky for him or he would have gotten 5 games.
 
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Tlangs said:
plus the jersey AJ Green sold wasn't even his...at least that is my understanding. The athletic department asked for it back from him so they could sell it in a charity auction and he couldn't produce it. it's not like he had a choice to lie...he had to give them the jersey back. Lucky for him or he would have gotten 5 games.
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Or lucky for him his coach didn't try to cover for him. Or maybe that's not luck.
 
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BUCKYLE;1909579; said:
No. He was asked and admitted. tOSU players were asked and lied.
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Actually, I don't think they lied, they just got the "plus one" because the AJ Green situation had been so public that the NCAA felt the Tat5 should known better (couldn't plead ignorant).
 
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Gatorubet;1909891; said:
Turns out Kyle is absolutely correct about the plus one rationale.
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Sorry, but you mean to tell me the NCAA gave them four games because of the jersey/tat deals but only one extra game because they lied to the NCAA? That's not how I remember it. The NCAA doesn't like rules violations, but they loathe being lied to...
 
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