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QB Troy Smith (2006 Heisman Trophy Winner)

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well yeah he helped us lose a game and he definatly was closer to taking a step back than forward. He did do some things that kept us in the game so thats why I'm just go'n to say he stayed still and didn't do either. We'll definatly know next week though!
 
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the one thing i like about smith this week (because this week is all that matters in the world....future...past...mean shit right now) is that stanton absolutely gave the scum defense fits....

hopefully the offensive coaches are smart enough to look at that film and see this...
 
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well yeah he helped us lose a game and he definatly was closer to taking a step back than forward. He did do some things that kept us in the game so thats why I'm just go'n to say he stayed still and didn't do either. We'll definatly know next week though!
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You need to play in the secondary with that backpeddaling:slappy:
 
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Good line Grad! haha but I never said he did well in the Purdue game so I never really back peddled much! jus simply worded it alittle different! Troy Smith should give Michigan troubles indeed if the coaches are smart hu?
 
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Pump you brakes people

I knew that it was bound to happen, two mistakes and here come the critics. I will take a rocket spiral over a wounded duck any day.

We can talk about "if" all night long, but who is to say that IF we scored on any of the red zone turnover possesions that Orton would not have drove the length of the field and score like he did.
 
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I would say this thread is extremely tame and even constructive besides the nitpicking on BukIPower's posts...but that more of an inside joke than criticizing TS.

To answer your question with a question, who is to say if tOSU scores on those 2 redzone opportunities that Purdue doesn't fold like up and quit? They were beat down from previous weeks and when doubt starts to creep it is contagious?

Who is to say what would have happened? However, the fact remains that turnovers in the redzone are 100% unacceptable...no matter who the QB is
 
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osugrad,
Would you agree that there were bright spots (edited just for OG21 hehe) on at least 5 good, medium to long, drives (2 that ended bad though), which was a step in the right direction. This whole season I have been stressed because it was hard for OSU's O-line to be consistent and for them to get long well fought drives going. Troy is coming along slow but when he learns to check off better, we will all rest a little easier.
Next year when they gets some more depth and talent on the O-line and RB positions, OSU will do fine. I just hope some of that talent shows through this Saturday. It is possible. OSU has nothing to lose!!!

p.s. I do agree 100% on those turnovers not being acceptable EVER !! Not that I disagreed on any of your points though.
p.s. That dry spell in the 2nd and 3rd quarter was also unacceptable for the Offense as a whole but hey they are just kids and very VERY young. no excuses though.
 
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DDOTT said:
I knew that it was bound to happen, two mistakes and here come the critics. I will take a rocket spiral over a wounded duck any day.

We can talk about "if" all night long, but who is to say that IF we scored on any of the red zone turnover possesions that Orton would not have drove the length of the field and score like he did.
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Where do I begin....
1) That's what happens when you have two near-equal QB's. If one isn't doing well, people call for the other. The same thing happened when Zwick made a few mistakes.
2) I will take a downfield pass over 1 yard passes any day.
3) Uh, genius if we would have scored on both of those red zone turnovers, we would have won the game. If we would have scored on the one you talk about, and then Orton drove the length of the field, we still would have had a chance in OT instead of losing the game straight up.
 
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osugrad,
Would you agree that there were glimpses of brilliance on at least 5 good, medium to long, drives (2 that ended bad though), which was a step in the right direction
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Well brilliance is a strong description IMHO, but he has shown that he possesses the tools to be a good QB. He needs patience...even in the face of the rush, he has to step vertically instead of the horizontal, outside of the pocket running he loves. If that habit cannot be broken during the season, then it is on the staff to design rollouts or moving pockets to adjust to that. Also, the Ginn mismatch/misread was the only instance shown on TV, but I would bet my paycheck there were more. People keep screaming for vertical offense, but if your QB will not give the deep routes time to develop and a safety to commit, it is a moot point.

TS will be fine...but I am not ready to announce him as the next great one yet. Potential is there but the jury is still out on his decision making.
 
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TS will be fine...but I am not ready to announce him as the next great one yet. Potential is there but the jury is still out on his decision making.
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I never announce "great ones" until after they have earned it. I am just cheering for him because he is a Buckeye. Wether its Justin or Troy or Todd ... It's all the same to me, I will cheer for them because they are Buckeyes.
In reference to verticle offense. There have been some instances where there were wide open TE's and WR's downfeild but thats a matter of Troy learning to check off better. It will come.
Good points ... thanks for the feedback.
 
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Hodge, I said either of the possesions not both. Of course we would have won.

On another note, was that playaction fake that good or is Underwood a candidate for defensive special ed? Remeber he was the DB who was looking inside instead guarding the receiver behind him against Iowa.
 
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Underwood bit on the fake because of his angle. The QB's back was to him, so he could not see the ball, and went for the fake. This was a mistake, however, because CB's are taught to always go for the QB. Underwood would not have caught the RB any sooner than any other defensive player, as the play was running away from him...but IMO he definitely should have gone for the QB. I'll take it though...after having their shit handed to them the entire first half, Snyder finally made some halftime adjustments, and the D played much better in the second half....atleast until the wuss switched to what basically amounted to a Prevent, when Orton came in and marched Purdue down the field.
 
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Sounds like Troy would like to open things up!!

Smith tried to avoid any situations heading into his first start against Michigan. He was visibly frustrated following his second win at quarterback, against Penn State, when he only attempted eight passes, but he refrained from any negative remarks. He flourished when the offense was opened up at Purdue. Asked if it had been frustrating to operate in Tressel’s ultra-conservative offensive approach, Smith again steered clear – sort of.

“You’re asking me questions where I wouldn’t want to respond to them the way I want to,” he said. “You can’t do that all the time.”

Michigan Week was clearly not one of those times for Smith.

“No,” he said. “It’s too big of week.”
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Maybe after the season he will have have more to say.
 
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