A real demonstration of a hard hitting interview, there Hooley.
Basically, he says he was tired because he's so busy that night (when votes were due). He doesn't look at records. OU was an "eye test" thing. He "knew" Ohio State lost to Wisconsin, so Wiscy had to be above Ohio State. But, then in the next breath, he doesn't play the "well this team beat that team, who beat that team, who lost to this team" game. Then he went on to play the victim card.. his kids are brainwashed Buckeye fans. his wife is a former cheerleader. He was a Captain. His dad was a captain. He'd love to put OSU at 2 .... or as high as he can.
Umm.... Herbie... you could have put OSU at 1 if you wanted to.