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QB J.T. Barrett (B1G FOY, All American, Silver Football Award, 3x B1G QBOY, National Champion)

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Arch2H said:
For what, touching a girl in a bar who slapped him? That's worse than underage OVI?
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I'm pretty sure slapped her back, though it wasn't exactly with force.
For various reasons laying a hand on a woman is a cardinal sin in our society... in both of these cases it'd be easy to play the "ticky tack" / "no harm no foul" angles, but they happened nonetheless.

Maybe my memory is bad, but I thought Hyde officially got 2 games and then had to fight his way back into the lineup (making it seem like more) ?
 
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CottageAveBuckeye said:
since you offer a question, i will respond. i suggested he resign his captaincy, not his role as an osu quarterback. a captain is a leader in words and deeds. he is not necessarily the most gifted athlete in the room.
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Even leaders make mistakes. No where in any leadership course I've taken ever comes with the premise that the captain of a team, leader of a group or anything like that is infallible.

Sometimes being a leader is showing the troops that you can accept the consequences of your mistake, learn from it and move on.
 
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CottageAveBuckeye said:
since you offer a question, i will respond. i suggested he resign his captaincy, not his role as an osu quarterback. a captain is a leader in words and deeds. he is not necessarily the most gifted athlete in the room.
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A captain gives up at the sign of adversity?
 
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Bill Lucas said:
I see the holier than thou crowd has returned. Apparently a few people have never made a mistake in their lives. Not surprisingly at least one is a poster who treads on the thin line of player bashing during game threads.
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There is a difference between holier than thou and responsibility and accountability. I've not seen one person say they would never do this or anything like it so he should be punished. There are things called the law, team rules, and university rules and they lay out punishment if broken. People for some reason believe these rules and punishments should be followed.

I was originally in the loss of captaincy group because the role comes with responsibilities and in this instance they were not followed. Some posters have made some good points of being an example of working through adversity so I have changed where I stand. Regardless coach will decide punishment and I'm sure he will handle well.
 
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Before arguing for/against the length of the suspension, or what SOP around other athletic departments in the country has historically been:

- Urban said repeatedly during the Hyde & Roby mess in 2013 that he wanted to have a program with penalties more severe than what everybody else enforced. If he doesn't go two games that threat is hollow. I'm not personally advocating one game, two games, the season, or whatever ... just saying this is the kind of scenario where Urban says one thing and does another that gives detractors ammo to take shots, drudge up past teams' arrest records, and throw out words like 'hypocrite.' It's absolutely the worst time to happen when he's out selling a book about Above the Line behavior and appearing on Bill O'Reilly.

- JT Barrett is 20 years old, male, and has a OVI. This will wind up costing him in the vicinity of $10,000 over the next three to five years in fines, deterrence programs, and insurance premiums, plus the community service time. There's also the character question that will be attached to him through the process of trying to get to the next level. He's going to be punished plenty, and long after his OSU career is over.
 
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sepia5 said:
Good grief. I think we all need to chill out. Not everybody's the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, drives while under the influence, whatever.
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Pretty sure that was a tongue in cheek response to some of the more dramatic reactions. Then again I replied with "hang him or shoot him". (Of course I'm 5 pages behind on this thread so maybe now he's also sacked a city. Bye weeks are so droll.
 
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