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Preseason and Regular Season Polls (2015)

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BuckeyeNation27 said:
you guys are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. look at Ohio State. are they playing #1 ranked, championship level football? don't worry about what TCU is or isn't doing, don't worry about how the pollsters usually work. is Ohio State playing at a level that says to you "yes, this is the best team in football".
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Let me get this straight...you want us to determine if Ohio State is playing "championship level football" without looking at any other teams against whom we can develop a benchmark to determine what constitutes a championship level? How can you tell who "is the best team in football" without making a comparison?
 
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Some of you guys should call up Herbstreit and see if there are any houses in his neighborhood for sale. Ohio State is the defending national champion, and should stay #1 until someone knocks them off. You don't punish teams for winning in college football.
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
you guys are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. look at Ohio State. are they playing #1 ranked, championship level football? don't worry about what TCU is or isn't doing, don't worry about how the pollsters usually work. is Ohio State playing at a level that says to you "yes, this is the best team in football".
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I'm well aware of how much easier it is to find fault rather than bother to consider who actually deserves the spot. "OSU isn't up to par" is a much simpler statement.

OSU is playing elite defense and has paired it with a good, bad, hideous and solid offensive performance thus far. Obviously they should be playing far better football on that side of the ball, but frankly I'm not sure they were expected to play ferocious, shut down defense this season.

MSU has a pretty good offense and a very suspect defense yet because their giant flaws are on defense, practically no one notices them. They've also been ravaged by injuries.

TCU has a high flying offense and a horrendous defense yet they're right there near the top.

The last time Ole Miss beat Alabama everyone went absolutely mississippi crazy. That ended well, and that was after a win over a much better Bama team than this Bammer offense led by a Wisconsin esque QB.

It's easy to say they aren't number one. It's very difficult to find a #1 team without substantial flaws.
 
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Dryden said:
After 14 weeks of the 2002 season, people still thought Ohio State wasn't playing Championship caliber football.

Fuck those people.
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After 12 weeks of the 2014 season, I didn't think OSU was playing Championship caliber football (I don't think I was wrong either, I just wildly misjudged their next outing).
 
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Woody1968 said:
Some of you guys should call up Herbstreit and see if there are any houses in his neighborhood for sale. Ohio State is the defending national champion, and should stay #1 until someone knocks them off. You don't punish teams for winning in college football.
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Did your sentiment apply to FSU last year?

I sure as hell don't believe this is an absolute. If you aren't playing like the #1 team, it doesn't matter what you did last year with a different set of guys/coaches/circumstances. This Ohio State team has not put up any performances that warrant being #1 any more than any of the other teams in the top 10 this year. That may change as the year progresses, but if someone thinks another team is better than the Buckeyes right now, I wouldn't point to the schedule and say "nope".
 
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BuckeyeNation27 said:
you guys are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. look at Ohio State. are they playing #1 ranked, championship level football? don't worry about what TCU is or isn't doing, don't worry about how the pollsters usually work. is Ohio State playing at a level that says to you "yes, this is the best team in football".

put another way. we take some schmuck who has never watched college football before. this hypothetical person knows everything there is to know about football....maybe he just sat in that chair from the Matrix and they downloaded football knowledge straight to his brain. anyway...he doesn't have a clue as to what college teams are good. you take this person and tell him you're going to let him watch the first 4 weeks of 4 different teams. he has to decide after watching each team if that team is likely ranked as the best team in the entire country. if he gets it wrong, he gets shot in the face. he watches team 1 and has to decide right then if they are the best team in the country or not. if not, he watches team 2. all he knows is that one of the 4 teams he's about to watch is supposedly the best.

If he watches Ohio State as the first team, does he survive?
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Unpossible. The Matrix knows tOSU football. Your point is moot.
 
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SloopyHangOn said:
Did your sentiment apply to FSU last year?

I sure as hell don't believe this is an absolute. If you aren't playing like the #1 team, it doesn't matter what you did last year with a different set of guys/coaches/circumstances. This Ohio State team has not put up any performances that warrant being #1 any more than any of the other teams in the top 10 this year. That may change as the year progresses, but if someone thinks another team is better than the Buckeyes right now, I wouldn't point to the schedule and say "nope".
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Yes. Even though I thought they would get beat by someone, they were rightly ranked #1, IMO. I would even say they should have been seeded #1 by the committee going into the playoff, since they were still undefeated.
 
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Woody1968 said:
It would have, but it was fun the way it worked out too.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens when the teams playing the best at the end of the season actually play each other in the final rather than in the semis. I'll be entirely honest. I think the Sugar Bowl was the defacto championship game. The winner of Oregon/FSU just wasn't going to be playing the same kind of football that the Buckeyes and the Tide were playing at that stage in the season.
 
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SloopyHangOn said:
It'll be interesting to see what happens when the teams playing the best at the end of the season actually play each other in the final rather than in the semis. I'll be entirely honest. I think the Sugar Bowl was the defacto championship game. The winner of Oregon/FSU just wasn't going to be playing the same kind of football that the Buckeyes and the Tide were playing at that stage in the season.
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Well, that is true. Oregon was not playing poorly, but despite what Herbie says, they are soft.
 
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