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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

Summary from yesterday:

Event: Dr. Graham Spanier held a press conference where his lawyer was unable to answer the most basic questions about Dr. Graham Spanier's inaction for the last 14 years.

BWI interpretation: Dr. Graham Spanier is an incredibly bright guy and willing to speak the truth. He was once an evil bastard for trying to force Joe out but now he's awesome because he's the only one with balls to fight the power... long live Braveheart (Dr. Graham Spanier).

Event: According to Dr. Graham Spanier's legal team the IT department at PSU "lost" an entire archive of pre-2004 email because of a botched upgrade. The IT department apparently did not take a snapshot of the existing email in the event that they would need to back out the upgrade. No backup tapes exist for the archived email. It all disappeared just like Ray Gricar did. When the 2004 upgrade was complete the IT department told the users "hey all your previous email is gone... We didn't have a plan B so you'll just have to deal with losing all your data... not just the funny emails your friends sent you but all the stuff you need to do your job is gone FOREVER... sucks to be you..."

BWI interpretation: Email gone... free Jerry, put the statue back, restore the wins, file legal action against NCAA, jail Emmert, hire Jay, rename the stadium to Paterno Field, take the names off the damn jerseys!

Event: Dr. Graham Spanier said he was told it was "horseplay" and saw no reason to do anything. Dr. Graham Spanier said it was just this "Jerry" fellow being "Jerry" all the time not really knowing who the heck this "Jerry" guy was?

BWI interpretation: Never trust a ginger. Have Gereral McCombie track down Mike McQueary (AKA McQuaid) and waterboard him until he admits that he used the word "horseplay". If waterboarding doesn't work threaten a Ray Gricar type ending

Event: Dr. Graham Spanier said he he did even really know Jerry Sandusky even though they were pictured together multiple times from 1997-2011, on the same charitable foundations boards, shared the presidents box at Beaver Stadium (soon to be rename Paterno Field) through the years

BWI interpretation: Jerry was too busy with his "charity" by the time Dr. Graham Spanier came to power and it's very likely they two never met nor Dr. Graham Spanier even knew this "Jerry" guy was

Event: Dr. Graham Spanier's legal team questioned the authority of the president and BOT to accept the NCAA conditions.

BWI interpretation: For the love of God please fire every one of these spineless idiots. The 31 incompetent BOT member should be replaced with the following: Arabass4PSU, Lebrono, Ret. General McCombie, Kevin Slaten, 9fold, Obliviax, Southeastern PA Buck Hunter, Mack Daddy (all iterations), pjone, NYNY, Howie'81, Mixolydian, lionlurker, Whipples Dam, 91Joe95, ChiTownLion, WestSideLion, psu00, LundyPSU, fairgambit, SgtCarter, Nittany Ned2, LealandLoyal, Nashville Lion, PaRanger, Rip_E_2_Joe_PA, TJ, thecoolestfish, Mister Magoo and of course....... wait for it...............Tom McAndrew. Franco will share chairman responsibility with Shane Conlin. Adam T is persona non-Grata for his acceptance of the Freeh report. His spinal cord injury has rendered him spineless to fight the BOT
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lol.......

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Posted: Today 2:35 PM
Have (some) pitty on the ignorant and weak of mind.....
Becasue I've read the Gospel I've steadfastly refused to get ****** into any discussions about PSU. Even when I was back in Scran'un recently, with several alumni, I tried to stay away but got ****** in. Some listened intently and at least said "REALLY !? I really need to read it. " Yes ! You REALLY do ! Or at least get out there on the interwebs and get more informed.

Last night my NFL fantasy team had its draft order selection at one of the local watering holes. I hadn't seen or talked to most of the other players since the Gospel was revealed. The long knives were out before I got the first beer to my lips. They're mostly tOSFU fans and it was a PSU bloodbath, at least until I went all Chuck Norris. I let them get on the moral high-horse and rant away. After they wore themselves out, I broke out the whoop-***.

The ingorance and stupidity out there is indescribable. It wasn't surprising coming from them, becase I knew more about Ink-Stink at tOSFU than they did.

Still when I left, I felt a little guilty, like a beat a 10yr old at chess. That lasted until I made the turn out of the parking lot.

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Posted: Today 2:43 PM
Re: Have (some) pitty on the ignorant and weak of mind.....
As a rule now, whenever the subject comes up I simply ask if the person has read the entire 267 page Freeh report. If no, I don't even bother debating and just tell them to read it if they want to have an informed debate. If yes, I have a conversation with them and usually find out that they were lying, and meant they only read the summary or read a news article on it.

I had one guy try to tell me that Spanier says in the e-mails, "We need to run this by Joe." referring to the 2001 plan. It's truly sad how little the average person knows about the situation.
 
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ORD_Buckeye;2198447; said:
Here's my 2-martini prediction on ped aggy's record going forward:

2012: 4-8 (wins over Temple, Purdue, IU and either Fredo or a surprise in the Big Ten)

BuckeyeMike80;2198458; said:
IF Indiana's offense is anywhere near competent and if Minny improves under Jerry Kill, I think Ped State will have a dogfight on their hands THIS year in both of those games.

Purdue returns a B1G high 19 starters, who beat us 26-23 in 2011. :mad1:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/purdue/notes/49831246/1

Purdue won't be a pushover, I don't think Ped State beats the Boilermakers (at Ross-Ade Stadium) this year either.
 
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NFBuck;2198748; said:
I wonder how many of them have actually read the report. I also wonder what the average reading comprehension ability is of the standard cultist...

Oh, I believe most have by now. Problem is they waited til just recently to do so after being brainwashed by the conspiracy theorists. Their minds were preset to see things that are not really there (PIXELATIONS!!!1!!1!) as well as read into statements way more than what is really being said.
 
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Still when I left, I felt a little guilty, like a beat a 10yr old at chess.

Good, I hope all those nasty Penn State fans who used to have a football team feel guilty when they win arguments about FACTS that make no difference to anyone. When it comes to football I will take something along the lines of 11-1 ignorance over 3-9 self righteousness.

What they still don't get is, the FACT that Freeh might have got it wrong and that the public might have it wrong is two thirds of the fun.

In FACT, imagine that everything the foil hats are saying is true. That the NCAA was totally out of line, Joe was innocent, and no sanctions should have been levied. You still don't get Silas Redd back - FACT. You don't get 10 extra schollies for the next four years - FACT. You don't get a bye into the NC game - FACT. Your program is in shambles - FACT.

And despite what you keep saying you have no recourse against the NCAA. Your University TOLD them to use the Freeh report - FACT. The best you can do is sue Erickson and individual members of the BOT - FACT.

So keep on reading your Freeh report and finding those forged emails. The FACT is the TRUTH no longer matters - you are SCREWED.
 
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If PSU did accidently delete all E-mails from 2004 and earlier.... Where is the documentation that it happened? Surely, there has to be a note in some sort of student or professional journal that such an epic screw-up occurred. If ANY organization had that happen, there'd be a paper trail. Where is it?

I'm starting to feel like it wasn't just a group of leaders ignoring the Sandusky issue, but that they covered-up their tracks to ensure that if it ever came back to bite them, there'd be little proof.
 
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Mrstickball;2198831; said:
I'm starting to feel like it wasn't just a group of leaders ignoring the Sandusky issue, but that they covered-up their tracks to ensure that if it ever came back to bite them, there'd be little proof.

At every turn, each and every person in a position of power seemed to do just enough to maintain plausible deniablility, imo.
 
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Let's look at the schedule.


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DateOpponent / EventLocationTime / Result
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09/01/12vs. Ohio
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University Park, Pa.12:00 p.m. ET
09/08/12at Virginia
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Charlottesville, Va.12:00 p.m. ET
09/15/12vs. Navy (Military Appreciation Day)
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University Park, Pa.3:30 p.m. ET
09/22/12vs. TempleUniversity Park, Pa.TBA0
9/29/12at Illinois *Champaign, Ill.TBA
10/06/12vs. Northwestern (Homecoming) *University Park, Pa.12:00 p.m. ET
10/20/12at Iowa *
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Iowa City, IA8:00 p.m. ET
10/27/12vs. Ohio State *
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University Park, Pa.6:00 p.m. ET
11/03/12at Purdue *West Lafayette, Ind.TBA
11/10/12at Nebraska *Lincoln, Neb.TBA
11/17/12vs. Indiana *University Park, Pa.TBA
11/24/12vs. Wisconsin *University Park, Pa.TBA

I think they will have a hard time getting 5-6 wins.
OU won't be easy. Call it a win.
Virginia this is away but Virginia isn't very good. Win.
Navy is always tough but can't throw the ball that helps PSU. Win.
Temple at Philly. Very tough game they barely won last year. Loss
Illinois away. Loss
Northwestern. Loss
Iowa. away Loss
OSU Loss
Purdue away this looks like a good Purdue team. Loss
Nebraska away Loss
Indiana win
Wisconsin Loss
I'm seeing a 4-8 team.
 
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Originally Posted by jarv
Imagine the outrage if Ohio State said they lost all of their email in an upgrade during the tattoo scandal. The media wood be furious. This is a load of transparent horse [Mark May].

On many levels there are so many inconsistencies that scream "cover up".
I'm sure there is still much being "lost". But I have hopes for the FBI report assuming it becomes public. People are afraid of the Feds.
 
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Taosman;2198855; said:
Virginia this is away but Virginia isn't very good. Win.
Actually, UVA is a pretty solid, possible 7-8 win team. I don't think they win that one.

Looking at the schedule, there's a few "pick 'em" kind of games, so picking a hard W-L is difficult, but I think between 3-5 wins is likely.
 
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