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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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Roundabout;2338023; said:
No Civil war, you either have the right attitude or your comments never happened... The last two threads no longer exist.
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Nothing to see here. Just following the steps laid out by Dear Leader Ugh Pa Joe, which is to cover it up and not ruin anyone's weekend.
 
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matcar;2338034; said:
What would be nice is when some resentment builds from Penn State alumni who are tired of Paterno worship and are ready to move on, but that doesn't seem possible.
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Judging from their Board of Trustee votes the last two elections, the large majority of alumni seem to be part and parcel of the Paterno Cult every bit as much as the average BWI poster. Quite frankly, these people deserve whatever they get on the road.
 
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I had a meeting in State College this morning, followed by lunch with some people from all over the state. It was my first (and hopefully last) time there. The people at my table were all business and professional people, in their 50's and 60's, including a college professor (not from Ped State). Its one thing to read what the cult has to say on an internet message board. After all, you really have no idea who they are. Its something else to hear it first hand from a group that would be considered fairly conservative and successful, and would under any other circumstances abhor the thought of pedophilia or anything associated with it. The conversation ran the gamut from the NCAA's penalties didn't fit the crime (to which I silently agreed, because they should have gotten the death penalty) to there was no justification in taking away JoePa's wins. Because of business reasons, I had to sit there and bite my tongue. But all I could think of was, if this isn't the definition of a cult, I don't know what is.
 
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I worked with a Penn State grad when the Freeh report came out. As far as I could tell he had lived in Ohio for a long time but he had his Penn State stuff around the office. I asked him what he thought about it and his response was something like "there is no proof of anything."

I never talked with him about it again.

If the cult still had that much influence over this guy after however long he had been away from the hive I can't imagine what it's like for those still living in the heart of the old regime's territory.
 
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The funny thing about Chicago is that none of them live in the city. Even the just out of college 20-somethings head straight for the suburbs. It's as though, Ped State has left them completely unprepared for any type of environment where they might run into someone or something they disagree with, so they just avoid it at all costs rather than confront it.
 
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I actually feel very sorry for anyone whose identity is invested so heavily in a coach and football team, that it becomes impossible to see the reality of what has happened. That they deny Paterno's own words, dismiss the suffering of those children, and wish it all away, is telling evidence that they have nothing else in their lives. It is very sad to contemplate any human being in such a state and I hope that Ohio State fans are never called upon to see such people in their own ranks.
 
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buckeyeintn said:
I had a meeting in State College this morning, followed by lunch with some people from all over the state. It was my first (and hopefully last) time there. The people at my table were all business and professional people, in their 50's and 60's, including a college professor (not from Ped State). Its one thing to read what the cult has to say on an internet message board. After all, you really have no idea who they are. Its something else to hear it first hand from a group that would be considered fairly conservative and successful, and would under any other circumstances abhor the thought of pedophilia or anything associated with it. The conversation ran the gamut from the NCAA's penalties didn't fit the crime (to which I silently agreed, because they should have gotten the death penalty) to there was no justification in taking away JoePa's wins. Because of business reasons, I had to sit there and bite my tongue. But all I could think of was, if this isn't the definition of a cult, I don't know what is.
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I'm sure I've said it on here probably more than once.....but this is what has always confused me about Penn State fans. Just being a fan of a team doesn't change how you act. You'll have a collection of some assholes, but mostly you're going to have a group of people who are probably biased but otherwise harmless and possibly even likeable. This is not true with Penn State. Somehow, being a Penn State fan makes you a complete piece of shit whenever the topic comes up. And not just the whole scandal topic......just Penn State in general. You'll have people who are successful in all other aspects of life, but the second Penn State football comes up they can't help themselves. They HAVE to be dickheads.
 
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ha!

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I read all of these postings, first person accounts with Penn State alums, and the only thing that makes sense to me is cognitive dissonance theory... when your world is collapsed by events, you are able to live with it only by denying the obvious, concentrating on the good and ignoring the bad.

I know I spent a few days telling myself that if Charlie Bauman hadn't taunted the Buckeye bench Woody wouldn't have clocked him. Then I realized that Bauman was a) a jerk b) a kid, and that Woody was the adult in the situation and failed to act on that principal.

So that cognitive dissonance part I can understand, but isn't there a time limit on cognitive dissonance? When the world only produces more evidence of fault and none of innocence, don't you eventually begin to come around?

Apparently not in Happy Valley.
 
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