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Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

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NYG21254246;2341223; said:
I agree with the $6,000,000 fine levied on the university. Instead of vacating paterno's wins (as it punishes the kids), fine his estate $3,000,000. Fine Sandusky $6,000,000, and ban him all NCAA campuses. As for the sanctions & current bowl ban, it hurts the kids there now. Let the kids play in a bowl, but they get no revenue from it.
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It was $60 mil, not $6 mil. Also, the NCAA has no authority to fine a person's estate...only the legal system can do that.
 
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NYG21254246;2341223; said:
As for the penalties levied against psu, I'm ok with them- but penalized them differently. Vacating wins affects the players who did nothing with Sandusky, paterno & the cover up.

I agree with the $6,000,000 fine levied on the university. Instead of vacating paterno's wins (as it punishes the kids), fine his estate $3,000,000. Fine Sandusky $6,000,000, and ban him all NCAA campuses. As for the sanctions & current bowl ban, it hurts the kids there now. Let the kids play in a bowl, but they get no revenue from it.
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The kids were free to transfer with no penalty. If they're being hurt, it's their own fuckin' fault. No one cried for tOSU's kids not getting to knock ND's Dick in the dirt for the NC, despite all of the players and Coach involved having since left the program. I mean, think of how many weekends that ruined.

Vacating wins harms no one but Paterno. 409 is fucking gone. As it should be.

They should have received the Death Penalty, imo. Force them to change the culture that allowed one monster to rape children while another allowed it to protect his legacy.
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2341231; said:
On the contrary. Losing the all-time win record destroys the whole essense of Penn State's very existance...just check their message boards. It's ALL about Paterno, football, and the win record.
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Yeah, they treated all the other penalties like kind of a mild nuisance. But the win record? Wooof...that pissed them off.
 
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The penalties were intended to hurt their football program going forward. The program established its reputation and assets while Jerry Sandusky did such horrible things and Joe Paterno looked the other way.

The kids could leave without any problem and chose to stay. I feel no sadness for them. My sadness is reserved from those poor kids that were abused while the Penn State faithful looked the other way.

Let's recall that Paterno was no greater legend that Woody Hayes in his time. One punch is all it took for Hayes to lose his job and career. One punch. And very few Buckeye fans felt that it was unjustified.
 
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Steve19;2341241; said:
The penalties were intended to hurt their football program going forward. The program established its reputation and assets while Jerry Sandusky did such horrible things and Joe Paterno looked the other way.

The kids could leave without any problem and chose to stay. I feel no sadness for them. My sadness is reserved from those poor kids that were abused while the Penn State faithful looked the other way.

Let's recall that Paterno was no greater legend that Woody Hayes in his time. One punch is all it took for Hayes to lose his job and career. One punch. And very few Buckeye fans felt that it was unjustified.
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Here's another option to punish Paterno's legacy. Assign the games to another coach on the staff not named Sandusky. That way the wins aren't vacated, and 409 (Paterno's legacy) is gone as well.

I know I have a little bias (since my uncle & cousin are PSU alums). Although, I do agree that Penn State deserved a serious punishment- it should not have been death penaltied. I don't believe there was any advantage gained on the field.

If Miami-FL doesn't get the death penalty, no school should.

As for SMU, those kids were pro athletes- they got paid thousands of dollars to play.
 
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NYG21254246;2341317; said:
Here's another option to punish Paterno's legacy. Assign the games to another coach on the staff not named Sandusky. That way the wins aren't vacated, and 409 (Paterno's legacy) is gone as well.

I know I have a little bias (since my uncle & cousin are PSU alums). Although, I do agree that Penn State deserved a serious punishment- it should not have been death penaltied. I don't believe there was any advantage gained on the field.

If Miami-FL doesn't get the death penalty, no school should.

As for SMU, those kids were pro athletes- they got paid thousands of dollars to play.
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They weren't
 
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NYG21254246;2341317; said:
I know I have a little bias (since my uncle & cousin are PSU alums). Although, I do agree that Penn State deserved a serious punishment- it should not have been death penaltied. I don't believe there was any advantage gained on the field.
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Fuck your bias. Paterno allowed a known pedophile to continue to use his position and facilities to prowl for sexual prey for at least a decade. This far trancends football and any "advantages" gained to it. The football program enabled this heinous behvaior, and it deserves every inch of NCAA dick that goes up its ass...
 
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MililaniBuckeye;2341321; said:
[censored] your bias. Paterno allowed a known pedophile to continue to use his position and facilities to prowl for sexual prey for at least a decade. This far trancends football and any "advantages" gained to it. The football program enabled this heinous behvaior, and it deserves every inch of NCAA dick that goes up its ass...
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I agree that Paterno did help in some way/shape/form in the cover up. That's why I feel that his estate should have been fined (which cannot happen), and all 409 of his wins be delegated to someone not named Jerry Sandusky. Transferring all of Paterno's 409 wins to another member of the staff also wipes out his legacy (he doesn't even exist in the NCAA or Penn State's record books)

Also, I feel (as I think I stated) that Paterno should have done far more than go up the proverbial "chain of command" to Curley/Shultz/Spanier; above the PSU police (who had arrest powers, but were run by Shultz) to the Pennsylvania State Police, to have Sandusky arrested whenever Paterno first found out.

Spanier was fired (only due to public pressure), as were Curley and Shultz. All 3 should have been fined, arrested for perjury at a minimum for their roles, and have civil suits filed against them. Anyone who hires any one of those three individuals should be thrown in jail with them. None of those 3 should be employed anywhere.

As for Mike McQueary, how much has he been held accountable? He walked in on Sandusky with a child in the showers. Why didn't he do something to stop Sandusky? Why didn't McQueary inform the police IMMEDIATELY? Why wasn't McQueary's SECOND call be to Paterno to report what he saw (call #1 clearly being the PA State Police)?

I wonder how much Governor Tom Corbett knew about the whole thing. McQueary's delay in action is also a red flag, that he knew something more.
 
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