Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Muck]

Obviously we have way too many real attorneys on this site.. who SHOULD be working.. but for those that aren't

Can the 4 names that keep popping up.. can they be sued personally? Can Joe Pa's estate be sued by the victims?

Sued or sued successfully?

Hell I could sue you for being from NJ.

 

[Buckrock]

Send in Janet Reno and the ATF. They'll take care if this in a hurry.

 

[BB73]

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt that tearing it down during this artfest thing would provoke massive riots. That it should be down by the end of the month is a no-brainer.

His name needs to come off the library, and if they need to give the family back the $4MM that should be an easy check to write. Plus, that'll just go to show that it wasn't some humble bit of support for the academics but just another brick in his self-aggrandizing wall of ego and image.

As long as that $4 million is held in trust until the civil suits against Paterno's estate are finalized, I'd be fine with that.

 

[AKAK]

And I don't necessarily disagree with your approach to the NCAA's purview on this except to point out that it seems as if Emmert - in a rare epiphany of NCAA-forward-thinking - has thought through the angle you've taken and outlined what the NCAA's case could be vis-a-vis LOIC and the tools at their disposal within the bylaws.

This, in itself, scares the bejesus out of me.

 

[Oh8ch]

His name needs to come off the library, and if they need to give the family back the $4MM that should be an easy check to write.

Disagree. PSU may have a very hard time writing checks in the future.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Send in Janet Reno and the ATF. They'll take care if this in a hurry.

Sheeesh. Haven't you been reading your BWI properly. Louis Freeh was entirely responsible for anything that went wrong in Waco.

As an aside, the metaphorical context of BWI sympathizing with and identifying with David Koresh is too fucking funny.

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

Sued or sued successfully?

Hell I could sue you for being from NJ.

No you couldn't.. cuz I'm from Ohio.. I just happen to live in NJ the last dozen years.. :tongue2:

 

[NJ-Buckeye]

I don't always agree with his content... but Jason Whitlock has written too very thought provoking articles this week.. that wreak with sense

Sexism played role in Penn St. horror
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/all-male-hierarchy-sexism-played-role-in-penn-state-joe-paterno-jerry-sandusky-cover-up-071212

A problem far greater than Penn State
http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/jerry-sandusky-penn-state-louis-freeh-report-nothing-changes-big-money-ncaa-athletics-playoff-system-071112

 

[Woody1968]

No you couldn't.. cuz I'm from Ohio.. I just happen to live in NJ the last dozen years.. :tongue2:

Not to veer too far off topic, but if this suit can go forward....

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/screwy_sex_suit_looms_q6gdfOvmQYZ5Zqq3gjZxMK

The mistress of a married Nassau County cop ? who enjoyed more than 100 nights with him while he was on duty ? is threatening to sue the county for $10 million because it didn?t prevent the couple?s steamy romance.

 

[Muck]

Penn State just doesn't get it

Penn State just doesn't get it. Neither did Joe Paterno; and if we are to believe his "voice from the grave" letter released this week by his family, he apparently never got it at any point - while he was alive or dead.

This isn't about Penn State, as much as the behavior of its executives (or lack thereof) allegedly aided in enabling a sexual predator. This isn't about JoPa, and how his gutless lack of action allegedly enabled the ongoing rape of young boys. This isn't even about Sandusky, the monster.

This is about the many young children whose innocence was stolen, whose childhoods were destroyed.

It would be nice if the verbal diarrhea leaving all points central Pennsylvania was simply about crisis mode...about the shallow protection of one's assets after truly egregious behavior and ahead of the inevitable civil action. But it's more culturally corrupt than that.

Penn State still doesn't get it - and no number of Hail State's, no amount of churlish fundraising, will change that; or hide its ugly face.

As for college football's "winningest" coach. at no point in Paterno's message from beyond did he truly express one iota of concern about the damage that was done under his watch. Instead, the energy of his words was spent protecting HIS legacy. About protecting HIS players.

.../cont/...

 

[Delaware Buck]

I believe the letter did mention something along the lines of "been applied half a dozen times" in the past, so, I'd be curious as to how.

Again, I understand everyone wanting to have the Pedsters get theirs... I don't understand the desire to give the NCAA even broader latitude to legislate morality. I guess it's because they are so good at what they do now.

How about this angle. PSU creates a moral position that they are one of the few schools that does things the right way. It becomes who they represent themselves as to prospective recruits. They use words like "grand experiment" , "success with honor", "real student-athletes" to recruit against the competition. They label the schools they compete against as a cheaters. We have letters to recruits from 2011 that prove this was their strategy... So how about the fact that not reporting JS was a competitive advantage with recruiting? How many kids are going to sign or not sign if they know the truth about what went on in that building for 14 years and that dear leader Paterno as well as just about everyone with a pulse on the staff knew what was going on? Or how about the point raised by Freeh that JS was working PSU Football camps (where prospective recruits were in attendance) up to 2011? How hard is it to qualify the advantage of allowing the guy that was the architect of LBU to stick around the program and impact their sales pitch to perspective student athletes? It's hard to imagine now but JS was seen as a saint by nearly everyone in that community prior to November. Recruits that came from broken homes would have been able to relate to all of his supposed good deeds and the foundation he established.

 

[Oh8ch]

As for college football's "winningest" coach. at no point in Paterno's message from beyond did he truly express one iota of concern about the damage that was done under his watch. Instead, the energy of his words was spent protecting HIS legacy.

That letter is going to be much more of a problem for PSU going forward than Jay ever anticipated when he wrote it.

And to anyone who thinks Joe actually wrote it I invite you to reread the letter and then watch this video from just before he took keyboard in hand.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg17_f-ggd4"]Joe Paterno's Final Public Address (After Being Fired) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[AKAK]

How about this angle. PSU creates a moral position that they are one of the few schools that does things the right way. It becomes who they represent themselves as to prospective recruits. They use words like "grand experiment" , "success with honor", "real student-athletes" to recruit against the competition. They label the schools they compete against as a cheaters. We have letters to recruits from 2011 that prove this was their strategy... So how about the fact that not reporting JS was a competitive advantage with recruiting? How many kids are going to sign or not sign if they know the truth about what went on in that building for 14 years and that dear leader Paterno as well as just about everyone with a pulse on the staff knew what was going on? Or how about the point raised by Freeh that JS was working PSU Football camps (where prospective recruits were in attendance) up to 2011? How hard is it to qualify the advantage of allowing the guy that was the architect of LBU to stick around the program and impact their sales pitch to perspective student athletes? It's hard to imagine now but JS was seen as a saint by nearly everyone in that community prior to November. Recruits that came from broken homes would have been able to relate to all of his supposed good deeds and the foundation he established.

Soooo.... what you're saying is... the NCAA should bust them for creating a rosier picture for recruits than the reality?

 

[FCollinsBuckeye]

Soooo.... what you're saying is... the NCAA should bust them for creating a rosier picture for recruits than the reality?

Jeebus, talk about a slippery slope.

To wit: (read the second-to-last paragraph)

 

[buxfan4life]

Soooo.... what you're saying is... the NCAA should bust them for creating a rosier picture for recruits than the reality?

Are you sure you aren't Max's alter ego? :tongue2: