A BWI thread about media whores John Ziegler and Kevin Slaten devolves into Todd Brewster explaining how "touchy feely" he is and various posters calling for a new trial for Jerry. NO BLOOD, NO RAPE!!!!!!!
http://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/ziegler-slaten-today-4-30-pm-et.23571/
Todd Brewster: "OldTiredLion, I have done many ventures with kids. I am very touchy feely, but I observed boundaries. IMO Jerry was similar, but he was stubborn and did things his way...
"I think looking back on it in today's world that Jerry definitely over stepped boundaries, but as JZ says this was the most investigated case ever and they found zero evidence. The only two eyewitnesses have been totally debunked.
"What astounds me to no end is that the people in Pennsylvania are not calling or writing to get action. Jerry should have had a new trial by an objective jury. I don't think there is an objective jury in the world that will convict Jerry of having sex with a child. I think those at this blog who say so are tied in some way to the BOT. I hope the 2011 BOT go on trial for failure of fiduciary responsibilities. They are the ones who need to be in jail."
Steve Masters: "Jerry Sandusky did not receive a fair trial and absolutely deserves a new one. Al Lindsay makes a very compelling case in his Petition for Post Conviction Relief that he had ineffective counsel and that there were several instances of obvious prosecutorial misconduct. The Grand Jury Presentment that Mike McQueary witnessed a sexual assault in the shower was false. The unjustified firing of Joe Paterno created an atmosphere in Centre County that ensured that a fair trial would be impossible."
simons96: "So were people wrong to question the accuser in the Duke lacrosse case? so it is OK to question a victim's story if there is only one victim, and all trials related to Jerry Sandusky have been exhausted. gotcha."
simons96: "for the record, I still believe Sandusky is guilty of SOME crimes (gotta bring in michnit to parse that word again), but there are certainly enough inconsistencies and irregularities with other aspects of the investigation and trial that make me believe there's something hokey going on
and that doesn't make me a horrible person."
WeR0206: "For the record my beliefs line up pretty closely with Simons and OldTiredLion...I think JS is guilty of some of the crimes but we can't say for sure without an actual legitimate trial. Not the kangaroo court that happened back in summer '12."
Steve Masters: "I don't think the evidence that JS is guilty is an convincing as you think it is. Regardless of whether he is guilty or not, there is no way the BOT should have made any settlements until the Curley, Schultz, and Spanier cases had been resolved and Penn State's culpability had been established. I believe that the Freeh Report is a farce."
WeR0206: "Since PSU tainted the process by publicly stating they were going to start handing out checks BEFORE JS or CSS had even had their trials it makes it extremely hard to gauge legit accusations vs. people just trying to get some easy money. That move by PSU really muddied the water, messed things up, and tainted the jury pool (btw when has a company/school EVER done this before--admit guilt for indicted employees/former employees and start handing out checks???)....IMO it was a calculated move by PSU to obfuscate things and it worked brilliantly."
Rollin Stone: "One aspect that I have wondered about considering the victims abuse claims is that in today's age of acceptance of homosexual lifestyle. I know that this may be a stretch, but most of the abuse claims were not of anal sex, mostly touching, and oral. Claims of sexual abuse in the 70's & 80's had a much different stigma attached to it because homosexuality was not as acceptable then as it is now.
"My point is that people may be more likely to make false claims of abuse because there is not that additional stigma of it being an homosexual encounter. I think that was a bigger aspect of it with the Catholic church scandal because victims and their families didn't want people to know or think that their child may be a homosexual. The attitudes of today are much different, it is more of no big deal regarding someone's sexuality."
simons96: "people are typically idiots who report things they "thought" they saw all the time."
indynittany: "Since the "victim" is on record stating nothing happened, the real question is why do you believe in Sandusky's guilt? If it's because of AF and MM, you might want to consider the source."
JeannieNeedsAShooter: "The BOT actions had a direct effect on the fairness of JS's trial. How can that not be obvious? The BOT response ensured a tainted jury and that was the point."
simons96: "unless someone can prove otherwise:
Mike never said he definitively saw molestation
Mike did not immediately go to the cops
Neither Mike's Dad nor Dr Dranov told him to go to the cops
Joe Paterno did not tell him to go to the cops
Tim Curley, gary Schultz, and Graham Spanier did not feel it warranted a police report
Jack Raykovitz did not report it to the police
Mike was never told he could NOT EVER report what he saw to the police
Sandusky denied anything sexual happened
The person we assume was the "victim" has never, under oath or otherwise, said he was molested
The person we assume was the "victim" went to Sandusky's attorney and made a statement nothing sexual happened
BTW, should I mention again even the OAG conceded C/S/S did nothing illegal in 2001 by not reporting what they were told??
