Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

[Deety]

Now see, most schools would consider a "moral beacon" something other than talking up values in order to draw in kids for raping.

 

[NFBuck]

Ummmm...what?

Yeah, I'm still reeling from reading that. My first instinct is that he is an obvious troll that has infiltrated the cult. Then I quickly realize the inbred, subhuman, sociopthic, monsters that we're dealing with here...

 

[Muck]

I can't wait to revisit this thread in 12 months.

 

[buxfan4life]

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=152857047&mid=152857047&sid=890&style=2

I'm ready to go, but I want to go on our terms although we won't. I want BOB to string together a few 1994 type seasons, but that is nothing more than a pipe dream of mine. Kick the hell out of O$U and scUM would be nice, but I know we won't, and then we tell that entire dying conference to kiss our ass on the way out the door would be the cherry on top, but somehow I think they all would line up and applaud us leaving for some reason.

We could take the entire Pittsburgh, Philly, Jersey, Maryland, DC and Northern Virginia television markets with us, but there is no way in hell that is going to happen with the BTN in those markets now. I would like to say we take the best Olympic sports programs in the conference, but I can't since O$U has more. I would like to say we take the most dynamic academic institution (other than possibly NW) but I can't since, well, Wisconsin, Ohio State and Michigan all have more dynamic academic institutions. And I would like to say we take the conference's moral and ethical beacon, but Sandusky and JoePa shattered that like a bullet through a crystal vase.

I would love to say that without us, the B1G goes back to being a one trick pony...and a dying one at that.... but I know deep down that they wouldn't miss a beat not having us around, and the truth of the matter is if we leave to go to the ACC, the Penn State brand would all but vanish because our basketball program sucks major ass.

The more I think about it, the more I want to say:
WE ARE PENN STATE. WE ARE NOTHING WITHOUT THEM (B1G).

Fixed it for the pedster.

 

[cincibuck]

And we take the conference's moral and ethical beacon.

Pretty Sure he meant this: And we'll take the conference's Morrell Bacon.

 

[BuckeyeNation27]

From the Pitt board and worth the read for a few cheap laughs.

http://pittsburgh.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=530&tid=170271163&mid=170271163&sid=996&style=2

Apparently, it's not just a dance marathon. They fan out across the state (and apparently even into Ohio) like a zombielike horde holding coffee cans out in the middle of intersections.

They absolutely do. I feel bad rolling my window up and ignoring them, because the sole reason that I'm not giving money to cancer research is because a Penn State fan is the one asking for it.

Oh well....I always donate generously to the bell ringers during Christmas.

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

They absolutely do. I feel bad rolling my window up and ignoring them, because the sole reason that I'm not giving money to cancer research is because a Penn State fan is the one asking for it.

Oh well....I always donate generously to the bell ringers during Christmas.

Pitt fans nail it. Why are you on our campus collecting money for a third tier cancer hospital in Hershey, when there's an NIH designated Comprehensive Cancer Center on our campus?

It would be like having to dodge a bunch of Juggalo greeks outside The Schott with tin cups begging for donations for a non-NIH cancer hospital in Cincinnati when there is a far superior research institute within view.

 

[cincibuck]

Pitt fans nail it. Why are you on our campus collecting money for a third tier cancer hospital in Hershey, when there's an NIH designated Comprehensive Cancer Center on our campus?

It would be like having to dodge a bunch of Juggalo greeks outside The Schott with tin cups begging for donations for a non-NIH cancer hospital in Cincinnati when there is a far superior research institute within view.

Since you're on here; three questions: 1. Do ACC schools share in the benefits of the NC Research Triangle, or is that the exclusive domain of UNC, NCSU, Duke and Wake? 2. It's my understanding that PSU's academic standing was pretty much middle of the road until they joined the Big 10 and their research revenue was way down in comparison to now. Correct? 3. Is Carnegie - Mellon part of Pitt, in which case why weren't they drawn into the Big when we were looking for a 12th or 13th school?

 

[ORD_Buckeye]

Since you're on here; three questions: 1. Do ACC schools share in the benefits of the NC Research Triangle, or is that the exclusive domain of UNC, NCSU, Duke and Wake? 2. It's my understanding that PSU's academic standing was pretty much middle of the road until they joined the Big 10 and their research revenue was way down in comparison to now. Correct? 3. Is Carnegie - Mellon part of Pitt, in which case why weren't they drawn into the Big when we were looking for a 12th or 13th school?

Don't have a definitive answer to 1 and 2.

1) I never looked at the research triangle as an academic consortium similar to the CIC. I always thought it was something more akin to Silicon Valley with more state support and collaboration among local universities. My hunch is that any benefits from it flow solely to the local universities.

2) I think being in the CIC helped Penn State's research profile, but I think Penn State was--at least undergrad--a middle of the pack Big Ten school when they joined. They were elected into the AAU in the late 50s which--while a great deal later than the Big Ten schools--was still a decade before they became a national football power. That's also something that I feel discredits the notion (legend) that Paterno and his football program single handedly lifted Penn State to academic relevance.

3) Pitt and CMU are completely separate universities--one public (despite what that idiot Beano Cook constantly repeats) and one private. I assume that there's some collaboration but to what degree I don't know.

 

[localyokel]

I don't. First they are the Big 10's opening to the East Coast market and short of landing Notre Dame, there is no other program that brings that aspect to the mix. Second, they expand the BTN market area. Having been stationed in DC prior to PSU entering the Big 10 and after, I can tell you that it opened the Maryland, DC and Northern Virginia market to Big 10 football, something that was not there prior to that. That's lots of kids watching Ohio State and other Big 10 teams play and that helps in recruiting. Third, every Big 10 team that plays in Happy Valley draws a full house of 100K fans. their take home paycheck is significantly bigger when compared to what they take home from Northwestern, or what they would take home from a game with Rutgers, Maryland, WVU, Syracuse, Missouri, Kansas, or Iowa state. Four, they are now comparable to OSU in academic quality.

All of that adds up to revenue, revenue not easily replaced by the schools that would fit into the Big 10 footprint - football first, big stadiums, strong fan bases that travel well -- hell even Indiana's fan base gets up and goes to out of town games and the rare bowl appearance --

From my point of view, the PSU in or out issue cuts both ways. Their fans may be in need of a cranialrectalectomy right now, but they've had a great deal handed to them to deal with. Anger, frustration, denial -- bound to be a part of their recovery process.

1) This is not a fan base that had a scandal thrust upon them for them to "deal with." What we have witnessed since last November appears--as far as I can tell--to the vast majority of us to be a revelation of their true condition. Those events did not occur in a vacuum. The State of PA might be excused if there had been widespread, vocal expressions of disgust and rejection of the values which allowed Sandusky's reign of terror and Joe's god-like dominance of the University and the community. Instead, we have seen far more than denial and frustration. We have seen an obstinate rejection of any self-examination, any acknowledgement of responsibility, or sincere shame that this destruction occurred in their holy-of-holies football sanctuary. They haven't been denying, they've been vociferously defending the faith, with NO sign of abating in the foreseeable future.

Every day they remain in the BIG is another day the entire conference is tainted by this obscenity that is not going to fade with time. If it's true you are known by the company you keep, then what is that message sending to the East Coast market you covet?

2) ESPN was acquired by ABC in 1984, and it was in the 1990's, coinciding with the addition of PSU to the BIG, that their expansion continued. The sports wing of Fox broadcasting also developed during this period. Of course, the Big Ten Network is expanding now, too. My point being that at the time PSU joined the BIG, the possibility for exposure to those eastern markets was much more limited. I question how much impact, in the ubiquitous cable sports network world of today, their inclusion has on visibility and recruiting.

3) Because I'm too lazy to look it up, anyone know how many fabulous players we've acquired as a result of PSU's influence who hailed from Maryland, DC, and Northern Virginia? I'm not convinced the trade-off is worth the price.

 

[localyokel]

The Patty Duke Show?

It's okay. You can just let it out. We're your friends. Are you and BB73 passing notes about how hawt she is?

Outside of State College, they were the only other identical cousins I'd ever heard about (who also had a video available on YouTube). And, no, it would be...ummmm...inapplicable...for me to find her "hawt".

And, given Patty's age at the time of that show, illegal for the rest of you.

 

[cincibuck]

1) This is not a fan base that had a scandal thrust upon them for them to "deal with." What we have witnessed since last November appears--as far as I can tell--to the vast majority of us to be a revelation of their true condition. Those events did not occur in a vacuum. The State of PA might be excused if there had been widespread, vocal expressions of disgust and rejection of the values which allowed Sandusky's reign of terror and Joe's god-like dominance of the University and the community. Instead, we have seen far more than denial and frustration. We have seen an obstinate rejection of any self-examination, any acknowledgement of responsibility, or sincere shame that this destruction occurred in their holy-of-holies football sanctuary. They haven't been denying, they've been vociferously defending the faith, with NO sign of abating in the foreseeable future.

Every day they remain in the BIG is another day the entire conference is tainted by this obscenity that is not going to fade with time. If it's true you are known by the company you keep, then what is that message sending to the East Coast market you covet?

2) ESPN was acquired by ABC in 1984, and it was in the 1990's, coinciding with the addition of PSU to the BIG, that their expansion continued. The sports wing of Fox broadcasting also developed during this period. Of course, the Big Ten Network is expanding now, too. My point being that at the time PSU joined the BIG, the possibility for exposure to those eastern markets was much more limited. I question how much impact, in the ubiquitous cable sports network world of today, their inclusion has on visibility and recruiting.

3) Because I'm too lazy to look it up, anyone know how many fabulous players we've acquired as a result of PSU's influence who hailed from Maryland, DC, and Northern Virginia? I'm not convinced the trade-off is worth the price.

So who you got in mind to replace Penn State? Notre Dame, who turned their backs on the conference not once, but twice? Texas, who played the conference for a fool and wants nothing that adds up to sharing their own revenue stream? Rutgers, Syracuse, Maryland, WVU, Mizzou, Kansas, Iowa State, Cincinnati, Pitt?

You take out Penn State and the choices left aren't particularly appealing. The drop off in revenue from their stadium, the drop off if there's no CCG. It goes on and on.

Anyone with time and a computer can post on a fan board, that doesn't mean they represent the university. I've seen plenty on here that I'm sure OSU officials would rather not have connected with the school.

Yeah, Sandusky's behavior is disgusting and JoePa's failure to follow up on what he knew is reprehensible, but they are not the university, nor are their silly ass fans.

 

[Onebuckfan]

Hell, the governor when he was AG stopped investigating Sandusky because he knew it might hurt his campaign for Gov. but I do agree that PSU, no matter the bluster from their fans or the disgust from us, wil remain in the Big 10. I've never been to Slappy Valley and don't plan on going but I want to make it clear the behavior of Sandusky, Paterno, Athletic Dept, Campus and Local Police are unacceptable. No matter how much money they bring in.

 

[Abenaki]

I literally laughed out loud at work on this one. Apparently they don't speak sarcasm in Happy Valley.

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Re: Yet more proof of the pompousness of tOSFU

BuckeyeBash22 wrote:

WildLion2002 wrote:

BuckeyeBash22 wrote:

templarwd wrote: Congrats to Jake Ballard & Jim Cordle - Super Bowl champs with the NY Giants. More proof Buckeyes= Champions!

That was the OFFICAL Tweet of tOSFU just minutes ago, re-tweeded by BIG2little10 Network. All the other schools with players on the Giants, just congradulated them. Only tOSFU congradulated themselves too.​

i dont know.... that statement looks pretty accurate to me

i know the Super Bowl MVP is just a popularity contest which is why Manning won

but if u have a true ballot with unbiased media members, or asked Giants coaches and players, they would declare Ballard and Cordle co-MVPs for the Super Bowl.... those 2 guys taught the rest of the team what it takes to win

I still cant believe those pompous and arrogant OSU people "congradulated" their former players for winning the Super Bowl​

I still think a QB from Ole Miss and WRs from Michigan, UMass, and NC State had a little bit more of an impact on the outcome. Ballard and Cordle taught them how to win? They were still at OSU when they beat the Pats the first time.​

no way.... u have no clue what youre talking about....

Victor Cruz would be bagging groceries at Giant Eagle today if it werent for Jimmy Cordle taking him aside one day, putting his hand on his shoulder, and saying "son, you have what it takes to play in this league.... Believe in yourself... but more importantly, know that I believe in you"

Mario Manningham.... same thing.... one day in practice, he had 13 straight drops.... the coach was riding him and he took his helmet off and walked off the field.... coach said "thats it" and threatened to cut him..... Jake Ballard then stepped up and said he was just having a bad day and to forget about it.... coach wasnt having it and still wanted him cut..... Jake Ballard then took off his jersey, dropped it on the field, and said "hey coach, if hes out, i'm out"..... being the team leader he is, the rest of the team took off their jerseys, dropped them, and walked off the field leaving coach Coughlin there by himself..... needless to say, the coach gave Manningham another chance....


so u tell me....

who are the real MVPs again?​

Manning, Cruz, Nicks, and Manningham

 

[Mike80]

The stain that is Ped State must be removed from the B1G.