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Taosman;2280521; said:
Kelly has done something remarkable in a place not known for great football.
His schemes with speed have changed the game of college football.
Now, about that recruiting.................:tongue2:
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I agree his schemes are great in college.

Will they work consistently in the NFL where the playing field is much closer to level ground?

I have my doubts judging by his results vs teams closer to his talent level at Oregon.

Harbaugh i figured would be a success.
he ran a more traditional NFL type offense and defense, and won many games despite not having a ridiculous talent advantage over most of his opponents.
 
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Nutriaitch;2280489; said:
any scheme can work temporarily or in spurts.

the entire premise of the spread is to create mismatches against the defense.
spread the width of the field, and make teams cover more ground, and find the weak spot.

that's a whole lot easier in college when the vast majority of kids on the other team will never even sniff the practice squad of an NFL team.

the talent gap/depth from the absolute best NFL team to the absolute worst is not nearly as big as the talent gap/depth between the best team in a given BCS conference and middle of the pack in the same conference.
Let alone the bottom feeders in that conference, or even top level teams from non-AQ conferences.


look at Oregon's schedule since 2010.
they've played 8 games against teams that have at least similar talent (or better in some cases).
they are 4-4 in those games.

in the entire rest of their schedule, they've had a noticeable talent gap than their competition.
they are 31-0 in those games.
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Great points. I would add to that that they have also struggled against stout, physical defenses... Stanford, LSU, Auburn, USC, and Ohio State come to mind. They don't get much more physical than they do in The League...
 
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The question isn't "is Chip going to be a good NFL coach?"

The question is "is Chip going to cash the check that some dumb NFL owner who is trying to make a splash by hiring a big name coach is going to give him?
 
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NFBuck;2288186; said:
Same time next year, Chip? :roll1:
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I don't know if this will work again. I think the NFL will shy away if they think he is never going to leave the Ducks. I never understood why some guys would leave college when they are someplace that will match anything the NFL will give them. Uncle Phil will probably give him a 10 year auto-renewing contract. What percent of NFL coaches get canned within 4 years? I'm guessing 90%.
 
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exhawg;2288195; said:
I don't know if this will work again. I think the NFL will shy away if they think he is never going to leave the Ducks. I never understood why some guys would leave college when they are someplace that will match anything the NFL will give them. Uncle Phil will probably give him a 10 year auto-renewing contract. What percent of NFL coaches get canned within 4 years? I'm guessing 90%.
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What percent of Cleveland Browns coaches get.. nevermind.
 
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exhawg;2288195; said:
I don't know if this will work again. I think the NFL will shy away if they think he is never going to leave the Ducks. I never understood why some guys would leave college when they are someplace that will match anything the NFL will give them. Uncle Phil will probably give him a 10 year auto-renewing contract. What percent of NFL coaches get canned within 4 years? I'm guessing 90%.
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I agree. This is especially true in Kelly's case--I think it would take an NFL DC about half an hour to figure out how to stop Kelly's gimmick offense. And with the defenses he's trotted onto the field in Eugene, something tells me he'd go about 3-13 each year in the NFL until he was tossed out the door.
 
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Dumb question, but I've read numerous places that Oregon was in process to resolve this without facing the Committee On Infractions- essentially, working with the NCAA to come to "agreed upon" list of transgressions and penalties.

They couldn't do that, so now they're headed to Indy this spring.

This "behind the scenes" stuff is why we haven't seen a notice of allegations or other things (that, and the fact that there's only one media outlet- the Oregonian- pursuing the story).

Question: Was OSU ever offered the opportunity to resolve their issues "out of court", as it was? Given that Ohio State seemingly bent over backwards to cooperate with the NCAA, it would seem that the process was similar to what Oregon is doing, but we still were required to go through "official channels".

Was it due to the high amount of media scrutiny about our situation? Were there particulars involved that precluded us from this type of resolution?

I know I'm asking for speculation, but we've got enough "connected" people hereabouts that I think we can get some real insight from.

(PS- if it was really "the media scrutiny was too much" thing that ultimately forced our hand, I'm going to be really pissed)
 
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Kelly is waiting for his dream job. He probably would have do kill Josh McDaniels first.
CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Cleveland Browns went hard after Oregon coach Chip Kelly, but according to Oregonian columnist John Canzano, it didn't really matter.


Why? Because, Canzano writes on Oregon Live, Kelly would only trade in his Oregon job for the dream gig of a kid who grew up in New England: head coach of the Patriots. Kelly was born and raised in New Hampshire, prime Patriots territory.
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http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/01/chip_kelly_is_probably_waiting.html#incart_river
 
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buckeyesin07;2288212; said:
I agree. This is especially true in Kelly's case--I think it would take an NFL DC about half an hour to figure out how to stop Kelly's gimmick offense.
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Hell, our 2009 defense shut them down (17 points and 260 yards). A good NFL DC would eat that system alive...
 
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